Hey hey solum, you sound ticked; I thought BRW and the anti-video game crew weren't insulting as much as just ribbing you, similar to what I do to my older brother to make him point his finger wildly while he splutters and argues and says "and and and and and ANYWAY", but it's all with good affection and in good faith.

Still, my mid-30s brother still owns LEGOS, so come on. Who could pass up giving him some shit, right? I love legos, but it's too much to pass up giving him a hard time.

Similar thing? See it at all, or too irritated?

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:I thought that this thread had resolved itself. I thought that everyone was playing nice.

And I see no ignorant killjoys.

Again Bradley, words of wisdom. It seems this thread continues to want to spiral out of control, which makes me feel like i created a monster! (this makes me feel bad).
I only wondered what people's view on cheating etc was. It was almost a goad to get BRW et al to throw a few digs in - because it's funny to do that from time to time i find.

eg: baseball players ALL have really big asses. but this is going off topic.
i would encourage all you cheat meisters out there to try out Bradley's GTA code he kindly left for you all.
Personally, i think GTA can shit off, but whatever. But you misguided folks should try it, you might like it.

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I took it all a bit too seriously, too. I don't even really play videogames. While I agree that jupiter's comments are definitely ignorant (read which fucking book? Pick up what instrument? It seems patently obvious to me that completing a well designed and thoughtful videogame is of more "worth" than reading a Jackie Collins novel, for example...), everyone else is just taking the piss. And taking the piss is good fun.

In summary: I think we're all a gang of twats.

run joe, run wrote:I took it all a bit too seriously, too. I don't even really play videogames. While I agree that jupiter's comments are definitely ignorant (read which fucking book? Pick up what instrument? It seems patently obvious to me that completing a well designed and thoughtful videogame is of more "worth" than reading a Jackie Collins novel, for example...), everyone else is just taking the piss. And taking the piss is good fun.

In summary: I think we're all a gang of twats.

Agreed!

solum wrote:I can't believe any adult in a rock band could criticise a videogamer.

I take strong exception to the suggestion that rock is a juvenile pursuit. In fact, rock and the trifling activity that is video gaming do not belong in the same discussion.

For me, playing in a rock band is, at least in part, an effort to create something meaningful for the ages.

I will fail in this attempt, as will most.

But that is the effort.

Rock will be our testament, and some of that testament will be genius and timeless. Simply put, rock is our books.

[i]"The world of books is the most remarkable creation of man. Nothing else that he builds ever lasts. Monuments fall; nations perish; civilizations grow old and die out; and after an era of darkness, new races build others. But in the world of books are volumes that have seen this happen again and again and yet live on, still young, still as fresh as the day they were written, still telling men's hearts of the hearts of men centuries dead. And even the books that do not last long penetrate their own times at least, sailing further than Ulysses ever dreamed of, like ships on the seas.â€

please draw a distinction between playing the game and producing the game. the amount of hard work and creativity and all that stuff that goes into producing the music, dialog, sfx for a video game are no less valid than rock and roll. plenty of these video games use the rock and roll for their soundtracks.

video game music is frequently awesome.

toomanyhelicopters wrote:please draw a distinction between playing the game and producing the game. the amount of hard work and creativity and all that stuff that goes into producing the music, dialog, sfx for a video game are no less valid than rock and roll. plenty of these video games use the rock and roll for their soundtracks.

video game music is frequently awesome.

I was gonna say something along the lines of this. Surely if any, the comparison of playing a game is listening to rock 'n' roll as opposed to making making rock 'n' roll (recording, writing, gigging). So if that's the case, what is the equivalent of cheating on a game?

And yes, video game music is frequently awesome. Early in house Nintendo soundtracks and late 80's/early 90's Konami music in particular spring to mind.

To add further, how does all this stand up with the likes of bands such as Megadriver or Minibosses?

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Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:But don't you EVER equate our rock with your silly timewasters.

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Surfrider wrote:
So if that's the case, what is the equivalent of cheating on a game?


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Illegally downloading nu-metal mp3's.