Ron Paul?

No way he will get the nomination
Total votes: 67 (64%)
He has a chance of the nomination, but he could never beat the Democrats
Total votes: 4 (4%)
Paul in '08!
Total votes: 33 (32%)
Total votes: 104

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

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Rick Reuben wrote: Who do you blame for the war spending, Nihil?? Bush all by himself? Please tell me yes. I need a laugh.


To start off with, people like you. People who can't seem to focus on real issues. If you spend all of your efforts on sensationalist movie plots that have nothing to do with reality( i.e. cable news), thus participating in the welcomed public distraction, then yeah, the war is easily sold.


Bob, I always hold you close to my heart when I see a program about 9/11 Truth on cable. It's so adorable.

But we've been down this road...

It's obviously futile. So I'll fuck off.

Cheers!


-N

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

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Skronk wrote:History has proven what exactly? The underclass are still dominated, and forced to serve. Governments are still murdering citizens at home and abroad.


Lots of progress in the last 100 years. Look it up. A lot of sacrifice and it wasn't overnight, but there has been a lot of progress. Women's rights, civil rights, worker's rights, etc. If you dismiss this progress than you are simply an asshole, or a child...or both. A lot of people have suffered or died for what you seem to take for granted. And there still is a lot more work to do. It's progress, and it takes time. There is no easy fix. If you want an easy fix , I recommend heroin.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

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Rick Reuben wrote:
nihil wrote:
Nope. I was pointing out that you are nothing but a cable news republican.
That's incredible. Yeah, there is non-stop talk about 9/11 inside job and the oligarchs and the Federal Reserve on FOX News, nihil.

Answer the question about concentrated power: are you claiming that the Democrats are not motivated to perpetuate and grow their power in Washington? If you agree that they are, then tell me your solution for breaking the two party stranglehold on government.


I don't care about the parties in this country. They are obviously one in the same. The republicans are at least straightforward in their assholishness. I see you in this category. Only it seems that you believe that you are some kind of liberal.

Your flavor of bullshit in this regard, is the most retarded of all...

Is that explicit enough for you? Somehow, I doubt it.

Thinking about you always,

-N

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

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nihil wrote:
Skronk wrote:History has proven what exactly? The underclass are still dominated, and forced to serve. Governments are still murdering citizens at home and abroad.


Lots of progress in the last 100 years. Look it up. A lot of sacrifice and it wasn't overnight, but there has been a lot of progress. Women's rights, civil rights, worker's rights, etc. If you dismiss this progress than you are simply an asshole, or a child...or both. A lot of people have suffered or died for what you seem to take for granted. And there still is a lot more work to do. It's progress, and it takes time. There is no easy fix. If you want an easy fix , I recommend heroin.


And yet we're still being royally fucked, by the same government you're willing to let expand. Let's not kid ourselves. The faces change, and the rhetoric's updated, but we're modern day slaves. This progress, albeit good, is shit compared to the uphill battle we still have to go. You probably assume all this progress we've gained can't be taken away from us.

If you're fooled by the last hundred years, compared to the history of the last two thousand, whose the asshole?
Marsupialized wrote:I want a piano made out of jello.
It's the only way I'll be able to achieve the sound I hear in my head.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

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Skronk wrote:
nihil wrote:
Skronk wrote:History has proven what exactly? The underclass are still dominated, and forced to serve. Governments are still murdering citizens at home and abroad.


Lots of progress in the last 100 years. Look it up. A lot of sacrifice and it wasn't overnight, but there has been a lot of progress. Women's rights, civil rights, worker's rights, etc. If you dismiss this progress than you are simply an asshole, or a child...or both. A lot of people have suffered or died for what you seem to take for granted. And there still is a lot more work to do. It's progress, and it takes time. There is no easy fix. If you want an easy fix , I recommend heroin.


And yet we're still being royally fucked, by the same government you're willing to let expand. Let's not kid ourselves. The faces change, and the rhetoric's updated, but we're modern day slaves. This progress, albeit good, is shit compared to the uphill battle we still have to go. You probably assume all this progress we've gained can't be taken away from us.

If you're fooled by the last hundred years, compared to the history of the last two thousand, whose the asshole?


Never mind. We are talking about different things.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

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Rick Reuben wrote:
big_dave wrote: Why waste breath on someone who insists on boiling everything down to yes/no?
Dave, did a group of US government officials meet together, develop a plan to present false intelligence on Iraq, and then execute this plan? If so, would you call this plan organized and controlled? ( If you want to make yourself look like a fool by inventing an answer other than 'yes' or 'no' for that question, go right ahead.)


This has nothing to do with what I originally posted several months ago, and even less to do with what we were talking about in this thread. I was just trying to illustrate how the inconsistent lies of the Republican party should not be treated as a "conspiracy theory" in the same way as the Moon Hoax, Controlled Demolition and Area 51 as you suggested it should.

You went bezerk last night to avoid answering the question I asked you:

Who are the "globalists" and why do you think that they will benefit from the events that you predict?


Methinks that you don't want to answer that question because it will make you look even more fringe than you already do. I have always got the impression that you have some pretty wild opinions that you never post, which would account for your smugness and boasts of understanding. Out with it, what is the answer to that question? Have you changed your mind since last time someone asked and you replied "Israel"?

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

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Skronk wrote:And yet we're still being royally fucked, by the same government you're willing to let expand. Let's not kid ourselves. The faces change, and the rhetoric's updated, but we're modern day slaves. This progress, albeit good, is shit compared to the uphill battle we still have to go. You probably assume all this progress we've gained can't be taken away from us.

If you're fooled by the last hundred years, compared to the history of the last two thousand, whose the asshole?


But none of that is true. It is just message board rhetoric. Anyone who seriously believes that the civil rights movement, trade unionism, universal suffrage, religious freedom, state education and the like were useless is being a cock for the sake being "libertarian-er than thou" on the internet. Achievements were made, yes they can be taken away, but they are more likely to be taken away by people who believe them to be useless and irrelevant than they are by the government.

Unless you're getting your facts from websites that claim Betty Friedann, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, the CND movement and Aneuran Bevan were NWO agents. In which case, fuck off until you learn the difference between history and fantasy.

Skronk wrote:You managed in about five or six posts to say nothing. Congratulations, Dave.


Look closer. It was peppered with codes only readable by my fellow Perpetual War Thought Cops and Gate Keepers. Hope you've got your code-rings, boys.
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