I told you about Strawberry Fields

Yeah, how about shooting me in the face, instead?

Glass Onion is a blemish on that fantastic record. It's even worse that it's right at the beginning of the first LP. It soils the momentum and cheapens us all.


PMcC? Not Crap.
Ass Onion? Crap.


Faiz

redline said:

>>John should get props for "Plastic Ono Band". That is by far the best Lennon solo lp.

i've said this before, but what haven't i said before?

_john lennon/plastic ono band_ is hands down the best thing with which any member of the beatles has been associated

so beautiful, so raw, so direct

i don't think it makes the beatles irrelevant, but when i am listening to it, it makes me feel that way, especially regarding their overtly, ambitiously 'pop' side

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:Hey. If you skirts ever step up and knock out a beast like "Helter Skelter" or a diamond like "For No One", then you can call Paul McCartney CRAP. Until then, you're on stifle.

I bet that some of the people who voted CRAP haven't even heard "For No One", "Let Me Roll It", "I'm Looking Through You" or many of the other songs that we've mentioned.

When Paul McCartney wrote "For No One", Jesus descended unto him and presented him with a golden envelope. Inside the envelope was an ivory card. In embossed script it read, "Your song, she is such the delicacy, from this moment to the future, you are No The Crap, rest assuredly, no matter what you may do." Paul was startled and a little confused, and he turned the card over, to read on the obverse, "Si, even Wings."

Let us pray.

A love that should have lasted...I dunno, years!

Years!

tmidgett wrote:who wrote 'everybody's got something to hide except me and my monkey?' fuck, that's a good song. heard it on the radio the other day.
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Lennon wrote "monkey". If i remember correctly, he wrote it while they were hanging out with the maharishi and some of the lyrics were taken directly from things the maharishi said. Paul might play drums on it though. I think that was one of the songs they recorded during the period when ringo "quit". I'm not 100% sure about that one so don't jump down my throat if i'm wrong.

But anyway...the vast majority of sir paul's output since the beatles has been astonishly awful (although i confess that "coming up" is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me). Really, really dreadful shit. But it doesn't matter...nearly everything he did with the beatles makes up for it.

But then again, what the fuck do i know? This is only my first post.

nolan ryan wrote:But then again, what the fuck do i know?

Well, you clearly know enough to install the Multi-Flow® drainage system at the Alvin Community College baseball field.

"When Nolan Ryan decided to help his hometown college improve its baseball diamond, he chose the Multi-Flow Drainage system to keep the field well drained. The team was pleased with Ryan's generosity; Ryan was pleased with Multi-Flow's performance; Multi-Flow was pleased to receive the Nolan Ryan endorsement!"

Salut, Hall of Fame flamethrower and Republican activist Nolan Ryan!

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:

nolan ryan wrote:But then again, what the fuck do i know?

Well, you clearly know enough to install the Multi-Flow® drainage system at the Alvin Community College baseball field.

Oh hell...i may have to change my screen name. He was a childhood baseball hero of mine...

Not crap, but I'll go off on a tangent here, and the subject of my tangent is this: People who really hate Paul McCartney are invariably assholes. There are no exceptions.

I haven't heard him say a whole lot of immodest or arrogant things. But let's imagine that you wrote and performed a song forty years ago. It was all over the radio then and everyone bought the record, and even now tens of millions of people still turn the radio up when it comes on, and stay in the driveway after the car is turned off just so they can hear the whole thing. Sure, they're really remembering a high-school girlfriend or their first dog or something, but still, it's your song that evokes the memories and not someone else's. They also play the song for their kids, who inexplicably buy the album in huge numbers forty years after it's released. And they seem to love it, because it's impossible to find copies in used CD bins. Lately, your fans' kids have been playing your album for their own kids.

It would be forgivable, even inevitable, for you to develop a big head if you had made a record like this. Paul McCartney has done it at least twenty times.

And still, he didn't dump his wife, seems to have raised nice kids, didn't leave his home country to save a hundred million or so in taxes, and basically seems like an approachable goofball of a guy with maybe one-tenth the jaded rock-star attitude of Mick Jagger or David Bowie.

Yeah, the solo stuff hasn't been so good. And the vegetarian proselytizing gets old faster than unrefrigerated pork, and I really like to think that if Paul McCartney had foreseen all of the horrible self-indulgent dreck that Sgt. Pepper's would make rock bands believe they had a right to release, he would have burned the master tapes. But still... hatred of Paul McCartney is less an opinion than a symptom. A symptom of being an asshole.

oxlongm wrote:People who really hate Paul McCartney are invariably assholes. There are no exceptions.

Are you calling me an asshole? If so, then you are an asshat.

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:

Lobster Magnet wrote:The only good thing I have to say about Paul is that he introduced the rest of the Beatles to the music of Karlheinz Stockhausen, which would greatly influence them in the ways they recorded and so on.

How did Stockhausen really influence The Beatles? Because they ended up putting a piccolo trumpet on parts of "Penny Lane"? Because of the nonsense that is "Revolution #9"?

No offense, but I've heard this statement many times, but I don't hear it. How did Stockhausen really influence The Beatles?

I don't buy this Stockhausen/Beatles argument.

I need some evidence.

Redline wrote:"For No One" (from "Revolver")

How the fuck did I forget this song?

What a great song!

Stockhausen and Pierre Shaeffer are practically responsible for people recording the way they do. People credit the Beatles for inventing a lot of recording techniques or whatever, when in fact they were influenced and took ideas from Stockhausen. Karlheinz Stockhausen is one of the, if not THE most important artists during the 1900's. Music today would not be the same without him, that includes rock music and every other genre that probably wouldn't even exist without him.

And just because "Revolution 9" isn't a "normal" song doesn't make it nonsense.

John Lennon describing creating 'Revolution #9' on the White Album:

"It has the basic rhythm of the original 'Revolution' going on with some twenty loops we put on, things from the archives of EMI. We were cutting up classical music and making different size loops, and then I got an engineer tape on which some test engineer was saying, 'Number nine, number nine, number nine.' all those different bits of sound and noises are all compiled. There were about ten machines with people holding pencils on the loops - some only inches long and some a yard long. I fed them all in and mixed them live." (Miles, B. Paul McCartney:Many Years From Now. p. 484. NY. Owl Books,1997.)

John and Yoko later ventured further into this avant garde style of recording as heard on Two Virgins and other albums.