What if the records were "played" and then recorded on analog tape, then chopped up -- literally -- and then screwed by some people from Baltimore?

Misery: Oh, get over yourself, fancypants.

Caix: I think I get it now -- the old "that ain't music" thing? Thanks for clarifying.


Mr. Graham

Mr Food wrote:Ok. So, I won't write the turntable off as a valid instrument if you can post three examples of it being used in a way which actually serves a piece of music and not as a fucking novelty whose appeal is similar to watching fat kids stacking cups real fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6iGexp7Pn8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T08oxO-1hVY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERnzzBFFWiU&feature=related

Dr. Venkman wrote:

Mr Food wrote:Ok. So, I won't write the turntable off as a valid instrument if you can post three examples of it being used in a way which actually serves a piece of music and not as a fucking novelty whose appeal is similar to watching fat kids stacking cups real fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6iGexp7Pn8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T08oxO-1hVY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERnzzBFFWiU&feature=related

I'd probably put this one in the place of your second one.

qbert "drumming" with one record.

You got suuuuurved.

If this wasn't a tricky cup-stacking method of making music, would you think it was Good Music?

*sigh*

Well? Do you think this is really good music?

I don't like it as music, but it doesn't mean it doesn't have musical value. It's just my opinion. Obviously, the several thousand people out there who like Mixmaster Mike would disagree with you and me.

Zom-zom: I don't know why I'm bothering, because unless you've had a dramatic change of heart since your last posts in this thread, the following will bounce off you like logic off a creationist.

However:

I am not actually a huge fan of the kind of turntablist pyrotechnics displayed by DJs like Mixmaster Mike, Qbert & the legions of kids who worship them. While I do find it impressive & at times exciting (especially live), it generally leaves me cold aesthetically. I equate it to (ready? "Real" music content approaching) music performed by Steve Vai & Joe Satriani. Lots of technical wizardry & expertise -- but nothing that I find appealing musically or artistically.

On the other hand, a DJ like Kid Koala makes music that, to me, goes beyond the turntable version of Halen-style hammerons (or cup-stacking, whatever) that so many DJs aspire to, and is genuinely intriguing, soulful, human and distinctive. I find his albums compelling and worthy of repeated listening in the same way I find my most-loved albums featuring "real" music played by actual "musicians."

So, there you go. 5-8 minutes of my life blown to set up a caustic comment from you. Let 'er rip!


Mr. Graham