If the service is good to great i will always pay more.

These people deserve it.

If the service is ridiculously bad. I am keen enough to pay attention to the situation.

Is the waitstaff understaffed? kicking ass with no back-up?
This person is new and not quite in the loop?

Not to say that you should spend your dinner spying on whoever is waiting on you. I believe that the good people of the PRF know what constitutes bad service vs. situations beyond the staffs control.

If i walk into a an establishment and sit down at a table. Lets say this place has a ratio of 5 waitstaff to 3 customers and i am ignored while the hags prattle on about how shitty customers are.This has in fact happened.

When these SERVERS actually decide to approach the attitude ranges from Fuck You to you are bothering me.

The tip will be nil.

I tip 20% at restaurants, regardless of quality of service. I may throw in a bit extra if it is super amazing service. I think that the half minimum wage plus tips thing really needs to be phased out and gratuity should automatically be added to the check, or just increase the cost of food/drinks to cover it. It is bullshit that people think tipping is optional.

I tip well enough at the average restaurant I'm visiting on a lark, where "well enough" is usually around 20%. If I intend to go back I will probably tip a little higher, with the hopes that after time they will start to recognize me. At bars, I tip $2 on the first drink (unless it is an uber-expensive bar and they charge like $12 for a fucking rusty nail, in which case I tip accordingly) and then $1 every drink thereafter unless the service accords it higher. I tip higher if the bartender is my ex-roommate.

If the service sucks bad enough I won't leave shit. If the wait person is a dick, fuck them.
I've had plenty of jobs where I made tips and I know how it works, it would take all of 3 seconds to assure a tip from me and if they don't wanna do that fuck them.
It's a job like any other and if you don't do the job well you ain't gonna get paid well.

90% of the time I tip real well, because the person was cool but there are circumstances where it's acceptable not to leave anything.

I always tip as well as I can. These days I round up to the next $5 over 20 percent. That means a minimum tip of $5.

I know working in a service job sucks and sometimes people act like assholes. Doesn't stop me from tipping them. I might say something about not being an asshole, but I'm not going to leave that message in code by not tipping. The server would then retroactively be justified in being an asshole to me because I didn't tip him.

I have no qualms about giving a pizza guy an extra $10 on a $20 order. He brought me my goddamn food through the snow at 2 am for fuck's sake. It's more than I would do for ten bucks.

steve wrote:I always tip as well as I can. These days I round up to the next $5 over 20 percent. That means a minimum tip of $5.

I know working in a service job sucks and sometimes people act like assholes. Doesn't stop me from tipping them. I might say something about not being an asshole, but I'm not going to leave that message in code by not tipping. The server would then retroactively be justified in being an asshole to me because I didn't tip him.

I have no qualms about giving a pizza guy an extra $10 on a $20 order. He brought me my goddamn food through the snow at 2 am for fuck's sake. It's more than I would do for ten bucks.

I just got done with a particularly hellish nine hour delivery shift.

People like yourself make a pretty shitty job worth performing.

I bought the CD version of Two Nuns with tip money the other day, too, so it comes full circle in a coincidental, half-assed sort of way.

I generally tip 20+% as a rule. Shorting your server on a tip will more than likely send the message that you're an asshole, rather than the intended message that they did a bad job. I don't order delivery stuff very often - but when I do I try to be extra generous - I imagine delivering food to be one of the more thankless jobs.

What about the Starbucks tip jar? If I order a tall coffee, does that really warrant a tip? I'll put stuff in the tip jar on most occasions, but since I almost always just get a plain ol' coffee I end up asking myself why a lot.

barndog wrote:What about the Starbucks tip jar? If I order a tall coffee, does that really warrant a tip? I'll put stuff in the tip jar on most occasions, but since I almost always just get a plain ol' coffee I end up asking myself why a lot.

I am conditioned. I leave .75 to $1 in the tip thing at the coffee places.

I find my tipping has generally gone up, probably 25%-ish now. Mostly b/c I don't want to think about it, and I just throw in whatever is for sure enough.

I had an awful experience at Sepia a couple months ago, and I tipped 10%, which I thought was more insulting than not tipping at all. It was real bad. I emailed the restaurant, it was so bad. I also try to give the server the benefit of the doubt (maybe she's slammed, etc.), but this was indifference and worse.

steve wrote:I have no qualms about giving a pizza guy an extra $10 on a $20 order. He brought me my goddamn food through the snow at 2 am for fuck's sake. It's more than I would do for ten bucks.

I am glad you brought up the pizza guy, I always give the pizza guy ten bucks, always. Always have.
I would like everyone who is reading this to automatically give the pizza guy 10 bucks tip every single time you order a pizza.

I have this grand idea, let me explain. It can work.

You know how things are now? Where the 'good' jobs are these office jobs where people don't do shit but yap and gossip and fuck around on the computer all day and take home 15 16 bucks an hour, maybe more?
And how real jobs, doing real work...hard fucking work, the work that makes the whole world keep operating, not just some company....those jobs tend to pay barely enough to survive on?
I have this plan to make pizza delivery man the most sought after, highly prized job there is.
If every person who ordered a pizza gave the driver no less than 10 dollars tip every single time, I figure a pizza delivery man could make 50 or 60 dollars an hour on a fairly busy night. 100 bucks an hour on a real crazy night.
I want those terrible, worthless office people begging for those jobs, and I want the people who are pizza delivery men now to hold onto them and only give them up to their children when they are too old to carry on themselves. This can go generations. The great pizza barrons of the early 2000's will be written about in history books of the future.
I wanna see the pizza man pull up in a real fucking nice car, dressed in a real slick suit, surrounded by pussy.
I want pizza delivery men to be envied across the land, I want rappers talking about what pimp ass motherfuckers pizza delivery men are in their stupid rap songs.
This can happen, we can do this. If we spread the word to everyone we know and they do the same, we can really change things this little bit.

Eventually they'd become a political force, and you know damn well that pizza delivery guys ain't gonna be pullin' no bullshit that don't need pullin' once they get some power. I'd trust a pizza delivery man in power a lot sooner than some fucking spoiled rich kid, which is all we have now.

So who's with me? Order a pizza right now and let's start this.

Sup, I fucking love you.

Move to MD, stat.