Rick Reuben wrote:Who are you to warn me about the elites?? You're too gutless to even acknowledge that there are elites. Let me ask you a simple question, so you can duck it and make me laugh:Cranius wrote:Consequently, power and rights will be automatically ceded to those who own the most....your hated elites.
You mean the rich/concentrations of wealth? That is what I understand elites to be. But I know you don't mean the same thing.
Do globalization and the New World Order come together as a package deal? Or are you saying that we can have globalization without a NWO?
Okay, which NWO are we talking about? The commonly understood definition of New World Order--with the US as it's principal aristocrat-- adopting the mantel of the old imperial order...or the shadow conspiracy definition of the phrase?
This is your recurrent communicative problem. You talk a parallel language with it's own caballistic lexicon, a lexicon based around fear and superstition.
Antonio Negri wrote:Conspiracy theories of governmental and extra-governmental plots of global control, which have proliferated in recent decades...conspiracy theories are a crude but effective for approximating the functioning of the totality. The spectacle of politics as if the media, the military, the government, the transnational corporations, the global financial institutions, and so forth were all consciously and explicitly directed by a single power even though in reality they are not.
He's saying you have been captured by the spectacle itself, by your belief in conspiracies; they replace your fears and desires with theirs. You have been co-opted and sold a flattened conception of reality, that keeps you from beginning to even approach the working complexities of global capitalism and make you fodder for Ron Paul's reactionary politics. Marx would say that this puts you on the level of an animal, as you are unable to produce your own 'species-life'. Fortunately, this isn't this isn't your fault, you are just subject to it.
We simply aren't having the same conversation. You are just picking up the fag-ends of the thread as usual.