big_dave wrote:We are surrounded by wonderful people doing wonderful things. If you haven't met them, get out more. There are more people about leading awesome lives than there are 'average' people. Sure, the class system and capitalism limit the lives of many, many people, but by and large I wouldn't say that this limits people in general to the extent that most lives accomplish nothing. Have a little more value on other peoples' lives.

Why do you think I feel the way I do if I didn't think other's lives had value? You can lead a life which ever way you want, but there are unnecessary limitations placed on us.

big_dave wrote:I hate working, I think my labour is stolen from my every time I clock in. I'd rather be studying, writing and playing music. Every time I'm at the water cooler at work I'm thinking, there is no reason for me to be here aside from the rent. But still, life goes on and I'm not defeated yet.

Same here. If I truly though there's no way to work towards a better life, I would've ended it a while ago.

big_dave wrote:The lack of structure in modern life causes more problems. Flexible shifts, flexible working hours, flexible pay mean that the workforce has to be "on demand" more than it has to be. Workers and salary-guys alike should support structure in their favour, rather than cheer on flexibility and mobility in the workplace.

A good example is disabled rights. The counter argument was "we can't all accomadate the disabled, it will destroy the liberty of employers and make the workplace less competitve". But no, they lobbied and lobbied, and now workplaces in the UK are structured in favour of the disabled, with ramps and services whether they are needed or not. They won, and 'dynamic' executive management lost.

I'm not speaking of rights. I'm talking about the entire structure of the modern world. It can be boiled down to school>work>death. Society places more emphasis on labor, security, and payoff, then an actual fulfilling life. I'm not disregarding everything that happens in between, or the ability for us to improve, but it's unhealthy when people are subjected to such a regimented life. Mix that in with alienation from others, and from nature, all we have inherited is a shallow world.

big_dave wrote:Yes, the rich suck. Yes, the materially motivated are neurotic and alienating arseholes. No, there is not a new world order. No, the two ideas are not related. No, banks aren't evil.

The entire concept of interest is quite benign, right? Fooling those that don't read the fine line of a contract, repossessing homes and cars. Banks are not evil. Right. They are predators.

Skronk wrote:Why do you think I feel the way I do if I didn't think other's lives had value? You can lead a life which ever way you want, but there are unnecessary limitations placed on us.

I think I know how you feel. I feel the same, but I don't think it is as easy as to blaming specific individuals or bad genetic material.

I'm not speaking of rights. I'm talking about the entire structure of the modern world. It can be boiled down to school>work>death. Society places more emphasis on labor, security, and payoff, then an actual fulfilling life. I'm not disregarding everything that happens in between, or the ability for us to improve, but it's unhealthy when people are subjected to such a regimented life. Mix that in with alienation from others, and nature, all we have inherited is a shallow world.

School > Work > Death is awesome. I have no trouble with learning and working, those are the best things in life, apart from cooking and fucking.

Perhaps one of the greatest defeats of the capitalist, rightist mindset is that it makes young people dread work and loath education, alienating them from two of the most worthwhile things people can do, especially when young and free from responsibilities.

The entire concept of interest is quite benign, right? Fooling those that don't read the fine line of a contract, repossessing homes and cars. Banks are not evil. Right. They are predators.

There are shit banks, shit people who work for banks, and shit banking policy. That does not mean that all banks are evil by default, or that they were originally established to do evil. As I said, I paid no interest on my finances for over four years when I was a full time student, without that service - I would've been fucked. I think it was worth the money I paid at the end of the deal. I like the service, so now I'm earning cash, I pay for it.

I have no problem earning interest on savings or paying interest on credit.

Skronk wrote:Where do you even see the initiation for universal health care system coming from?

The reality is that the predatory medical suppliers want to be able to go to Washington to make money. They push for "universal health care" as much as anybody. It's the medical industrial complex. There is no way to get private industry out of the way because the US government isn't designed to provide goods or services....it directs them from private sources.

big_dave wrote:I think I know how you feel. I feel the same, but I don't think it is as easy as to blaming specific individuals or bad genetic material.

I don't put blame specific individuals because I don't know who they are. I can point you towards a few of them, though. Bad genetic material? I don't think that's it either. The drive for power and control is what has done us in, whether it's corporate or governmental.

big_dave wrote:School > Work > Death is awesome. I have no trouble with learning and working, those are the best things in life, apart from cooking and fucking.

Perhaps one of the greatest defeats of the capitalist, rightist mindset is that it makes young people dread work and loath education, alienating them from two of the most worthwhile things people can do, especially when young and free from responsibilities.

I don't dread work, nor education. I dread pointless work disguised as progress, and education that amounts to nothing more than a prerequisite for work.

Rick Reuben wrote:Fuck off yourself, you pampered drunken fake socialist shitbag sellout. I bet your bank handles all kinds of accounts for bullying extortionist capitalist asswipes.

BTW What do you do for a living Rick?

Rick Reuben wrote:

big_dave wrote:Reluctance and incompetance are not the same as bloodlust.

You are saying that reluctance is distinct from malice? What an idiot.

US Gov't: "We were reluctant to evacuate New Orleans when a Cat 5 hurricane slowly edged toward land for a week."

Big Dave: "Well then, that comforts me. I was afraid I'd have to find malice in your hearts. I'm sure your reluctance was rooted in the very best of intentions. Say no more. I'm satisfied that I have all the answers I need."

That hurricane was projected to hit Pensacola, FL until about four hours before it made landfall.

Government is hardly the omniscient power construct that you seem to think it is. You have no evidence for things that you claim the government has orchestrated. When they drop the ball (most of the time) it was all part of the plan?

You're barely human, Rick. Your tunnel vision is astounding. You're really just more of a board novelty at this point. Good luck getting along with or even mixing with the human population at large. Oh, but you're better than everyone else. I almost forgot. But you constantly remind me with everything you post on this board. You're even a blight within the community that you identify with. I honestly worry about you and care for you. You have your finger on the pulse of the illuminati, sure. For the sake of this argument, let's pretend that you are right about EVERYTHING. How is your own life? Can anyone stand you? At some point it will be important to you.

Rick Reuben wrote:Fuck off yourself, you pampered drunken fake socialist shitbag sellout. I bet your bank handles all kinds of accounts for bullying extortionist capitalist asswipes.

I work in credit. Suck it, Rick.

Skronk wrote:I don't put blame specific individuals because I don't know who they are. I can point you towards a few of them, though. Bad genetic material? I don't think that's it either. The drive for power and control is what has done us in, whether it's corporate or governmental.

I don't understand how this fits in with your pro-Paul position. If you think destructive, greed-driven members of society are likely to become the most powerful, why do you support corporate deregulation?

I don't dread work, nor education. I dread pointless work disguised as progress, and education that amounts to nothing more than a prerequisite for work.

How will privatization make this better? In the UK at the moment privatization is the only factor, short of whether or not you inherit money, governing the sort of employment and education available to an individual.

stabstab In thE BoOty.

Rick Reuben wrote:

syntaxfree07 wrote:That hurricane was projected to hit Pensacola, FL until about four hours before it made landfall.

Ridiculous. "four hours warning', you idiot?? The path was headed for New Orleans all through the 27th and 28th, you clown.

On August 28, at 10:00 a.m. CDT, the National Weather Service (NWS) field office in New Orleans issued a bulletin predicting catastrophic damage to New Orleans and the surrounding region.

Storm hit on the the 29th, so a full day to mobilize the federal government, not 'four hours', dipshit.

Katrina storm track:

The storm was huge, and it was aimed for New Orleans all weekend.

You are a moron, syntax. Always have been, always will be. Another total nobody.

Were you there, Rick? I was. I had to leave my house for three weeks.

I would rather live in partial obscurity than be a loudmouth tool with severe delusions of grandeur. That's fine-- I don't have much influence over this earth. I have made my peace with it. You haven't.

I have lived through more than one hurricane season in the gulf. The National Weather Service predicts severe damage to the entire gulf every time there is a higher category hurricane.

Hide behind statistics, again. Numbers don't tell human stories.There is more to it than that. I am telling you that I was there! I lived through Katrina and Ivan before it. Out of home for nine months in an extended-stay motel. I helped with relief in New Orleans. What have you done? Where have you been? How have you lived?

"I'm so distraught over this conspiracy theory that I read on ______'s blog"

Get out of the sidecar.