Karl Burns on The Fall's This Nation's Saving Grace - especially those crazy drums coming in fast on 'I am Damo Suzuki'.

ah! the excuse I needed to mention Jaki Liebezeit, and of course with that some other recalcitrant 70s avant stalwarts in the form of Robert Wyatt and Charles Hayward.

Agreed, Jaki Liebezeit's drumming is amazing. How could I have forgotten him?

Speaking of which, do you know which Can song 'I am Damo Suzuki' steals its magnificent descending chord sequence from (it's MES's damo-worship/homage to Can)?

I actually heard the song in question once, but didn't know what it was called or from what Can album it came.

placeholder wrote:stephen morris on every joy division record. and new order's 'movement'.

Spot on. Morris's drumming is incredible. He's a machine. A really powerful player, with such a dynamic. Movement is still my favourite, most atmospheric New Order album, the one I always come back to, and it's largely due to Morris's sharp, outstanding rhythm work - particularly on 'Chosen Time'.

Rubby Chuckers wrote:David Wm. Simms's explosive performance/assault on Two Nuns and a Packmule.

Still a great performance, but I have to correct myself. It's Rey Washam on Two Nuns and a Packmule. Rey, what a machine.

>do you know which Can song 'I am Damo Suzuki' steals its magnificent >descending chord sequence from (it's MES's damo-worship/homage to >Can)?

It sounds a lot like a chord sequence from "Bel Air" from the Future Days album.

did anyone mention max roach?

Angus Jung wrote:It sounds a lot like a chord sequence from "Bel Air" from the Future Days album.

That's the one Angus. Cheers. It's that last minute or so of 'Bel Air', right?

Funny how you can remember songs differently. I seem to remember the chord sequence lasting a lot longer in 'Bel Air' when I last heard it.

I think Can's music is a lot like that though. Elusive. It continually changes whenever you listen to it, always differently compelling, seeding new impressions.

salkin red wrote:but still i'd argue that a great feat for any drummer would be to be an entertaining virtuoso who's neat to watch but who nonetheless manages to make all this useful for the actual songs, not merely showing off.
(i guess weasel walter would be my example of choice...)

I think the drummer for Turing Machine could work for that. Very good.

How come nobody has mentioned Bitch Magnet?

Strange days indeed.

jimmy chamberlin on most every song he plays on.

carter beauford from dave matthew's band is pretty incredible too.