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Barack Obama crushes Hillary Clinton amongst the pragmatic, moderate-to-conservative voters in the states where John McCain is weakest with the Republican Party base. End of story.

This is important because winner-take-all, state-by-state electors decide which general election candidate wins. Obama would put Colorado, Kansas, Louisiana, and Virginia into play for the Democratic Party in the general election. Obama could maybe even bring the Democratic Party some inconceivable (recently) competitiveness into Georgia and North Carolina for the general election.

Be it conspiracy or ol' fashioned machine politics, I still believe that the Democratic Party will throw Barack Obama under the bus and nominate Hillary Clinton, whom I believe to be a worse general election candidate.

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Rick Reuben wrote:WTF is going on in Washington State??

CNN is reporting that 96% of the Democratic precincts have reported, and only 37% of the Republican precincts. What are they doing? Attacking the central tabulators with baseball bats?

Anyway, according to this bullshit, it's Huck 27, McCain 23, and Ron Paul at 21.


It is only 8:52 p.m. in Washington, which is a caucus state. They probably voted by hand or on series of scraps of paper, since it is a caucus state.

I have lived in two caucus states, and reporting the returns takes time. Plus, recall that they have to use humans, not more efficiently diabolical voting machines, to fuck over Ron Paul.

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Rick Reuben wrote:
Minotaur029 wrote:Drew Patrick: voice of reason...again!

If you won't listen to me, then listen to this guy. I'm pretty much 100% in agreement with his post above.

That's good, because he's saying that Hillary will be the nominee, just like I have said:
drew Patrick wrote:I still believe that the Democratic Party will throw Barack Obama under the bus and nominate Hillary Clinton, whom I believe to be a worse general election candidate.

Did you not read that he is picking against Obama? It does not matter that Hillary will be a worse candidate- the decision is fixed. The money will go to Hillary, McCain will be swiftboated, and all will turn out fine for the controllers. Hillary will be elected.


As far as I know, Minotaur029 is not on record as picking Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton for the Democratic Party nomination. I agree with Minotaur029's analysis of Obama's chance to beat John McCain in a general election featuring those two candidates.

Minotaur029 is on record as picking Clinton over McCain in a general election matchup between those two candidates. So Minotaur agrees with you on that point.

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Rick Reuben wrote:
drew patrick wrote:Minotaur029 is on record as picking Clinton over McCain in a general election matchup between those two candidates. So Minotaur agrees with you on that point.
Is that what he's saying today? He's gone from 'Hillary vs. McCain, too close to call' to 'Hillary whips McCain'? It's only been 10 days since he made this post:
minotaur029, 1-30-08 wrote:Obama would beat McCain.
Hillary vs. McCain is too close to call.

Verify here:
http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=594252

And here is wishy washing back on January 9, 2008:
minotaur029 wrote:Hillary is easily the Democrat most vulnerable to defeat. Obama sweeps all current head-to-head matchups with any Republican. I think she would probably sneak past a Republican candidate...but I'm not so sure she could sneak past McCain.

What does last sentence even mean? He thinks she can sneak past a Republican, but not McCain?? McCain is a Republican. More of minotaur029 make a new pick every third day and then pretend you picked every race.

Verify the second quote here:

http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=578741

Minotaur is like bald tires on an icy road with his 'predictions': all over the pavement.


To be fair, you picked McCain over Clinton before flip-flopping to pick Clinton over McCain, right?

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http://www.dane101.com/current/2008/02/ ... er_tuesday

Madison could become the center of national attention on Tuesday as results roll in from the Potomac Primary states. Barack Obama's campaign officially announced this morning that the Illinois Senator running for the Democratic Presidential nomination will be speaking at the Kohl Center; doors open at 6:15 p.m. on February 12. According to event organizers the Senator will be speaking at 8 p.m., one hour after the polls close in Virginia, Washington D.C., and Maryland . Obama is projected to win, at the least, two of those three contests on Tuesday so attendees will likely be witnessing a victory speech. The event is free and open to the public, but an RSVP is encouraged. This will be Obama's second visit to Madison. It is unknown at this time if New York Senator Hillary Clinton will be stumping in our city. The Wisconsin primary will be held on February 19.

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