Mandroid2.0 wrote:I have not seen this movie, but I'm against it because it seems to support the act of having a baby rather than aborting.

...and you hate the Ramones? You sound like a barrel of laughs.

creepy-as-fuck-Boombats wrote:1 question- is there an underage sex scene?

Jesus Christ.

Dr. Venkman wrote:

Mandroid2.0 wrote:I have not seen this movie, but I'm against it because it seems to support the act of having a baby rather than aborting.

...and you hate the Ramones? You sound like a barrel of laughs.

creepy-as-fuck-Boombats wrote:1 question- is there an underage sex scene?

Jesus Christ.

these two are alright by me but i don't give money to the homeless, and i might leave the party with the booze i brought.


also, i kick puppies and drown kittens.

This film had some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard. Totally pseudo-clever masturbatory shit that overwhelmed and obscured the characters and the (good) actors.

Crap.

Antero wrote:This film had some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard. Totally pseudo-clever masturbatory shit that overwhelmed and obscured the characters and the (good) actors.

Crap.

i fucking hate movies like that.

you're s'posed to trick people into thinking the characters on screen are real, not prove they're fake.

Marsupialized wrote:

geiginni wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:sha lala

Yes, that's all very nice, but dare I need ask...

would you bang her?


I. Would. Totally.

Look at that chick and you tell me if I would bang her or not

More nice photos of one Diablo (emphasis on 'blo') Cody for your viewing pleasure. BTW: NSFW

Anybody else feel that this Oscar might be "the kiss of death" for her career?

let's hope.

i heard the main girl in it is lahey's daughter in the groundbreaking comedy series trailor park boys. is this true?

Not crap.

I give it 14 3/4 stars out of 26.

SPOILER ALERT




I thought the portrayal of a woman deciding to give her baby to a single mom was the most feminist thing I've ever seen in any piece of art. Hands down.

You hear so much trash (maybe I'm more sensitive to this because I'm a homo) about how a family with a mom and a dad is the best possible environment for a baby, and then Juno completely blows that out of the water by recognizing the worth of Jennifer Garnder's character as a mother, single or not, and gives her the fucking baby despite the fact that the douche bag left her. I thought that was huge, and I hope it sinks in with more people.

I think that is completely overlooked and I think it negates any kind of anti-pro choice bullshit people want to sling at this movie. I don't get why more people don't talk about that

richterbjack wrote:Everybody from both sides of the debate knows that Roe v. Wade is under heavy fire at best, and teetering on the brink at worst; why write a screenplay for a high profile film that's going to further galvanize the side you claim to oppose?

1.) It's not her responsibility, and 2.) She didn't galvanize. In fact, she went down the middle - she showed someone who both had a choice and still birthed the baby.

richterbjack wrote:Regardless, I'm not demanding by any means that the only allowable kind of movie featuring abortion is one where it's portrayed in the "most positive light possible". Fast Times at Ridgemont High and the episode of Six Feet Under in which Claire has an abortion were far from a "positive light", but they were also unflinchingly honest and didn't insult the characters or audience by implying that these women were going to be traumatized by their decision for the rest of their lives.

I don't get what you mean. Some women are traumatized by having an abortion. My friend who had one at sixteen certainly has been. Not that that means she shouldn't have done it.

Side note about FAST TIMES abortion scene: The actual scene of her getting the abortion was cut for the theatrical release because Amy Heckerling thought the actors were in over their heads and didn't pull it off quite right. It was, however, added on for TV screenings much alike the Billy Madison kickball scene

I'll try to be as succint as possible this time.

readysetrawk wrote:1.) It's not her responsibility, and 2.) She didn't galvanize. In fact, she went down the middle - she showed someone who both had a choice and still birthed the baby.

Actually, the movie did galvanize quite a few people of that persuasion; there are more than enough articles and op-eds in national newspapers to attest to that.

As for her "responsibility", she's well within her rights to come up with whatever story she wants. The fact that she has publicly declared herself a feminist, though, rightly opens her up to criticism from those who would, have, and will attempt to call her out on what they see as bullshit posturing. As somebody else said, this is a woman that made a name for herself by giving men erections.

Maybe we're on different wavelengths here, but I don't see the role of the single working mother as particularly controversial, either. Considering that half of all marriages end in divorce now, many having produced children, it's the demographic reality. I think most people who still harbor some kind of animosity towards single mothers are considered the fringe by everyone else, and rightly so.

I don't get what you mean. Some women are traumatized by having an abortion. My friend who had one at sixteen certainly has been. Not that that means she shouldn't have done it.

I'm sorry for your friend. Really. That doesn't change the fact that plenty of women manage to move on from it without those problems, and don't have any real regrets about the choice they made, an angle to the debate that is conspicuously missing in film, television, etc at the moment, which again was my original point. If I were to spend over an hour watching that character's story progress to the point where she decides to get an abortion she has every right to obtain, only for her to become traumatized because "moral sensibility" (and not the arc of character) calls for it... Yeah, I'd find it insulting.

As for Fast Times, I was referring to the original cut, where seeing Jennifer Jason Leigh's
Character run across the street to the clinic makes things clear enough.