houseboat wrote: mp3s, acquired with ease and no sacrifice, sort of take on a disposable nature. I mean, literally, you can dump an album in the recycling bin without a second thought.

mp3s are disposable, good music is not.

if an album (downloaded free) is a piece of crap (wholly subjective, i know) i'll shitcan it (delete) with urgency. if the album is good i'll buy it (on LP), unless it's OOP and costs an exorbitant (also subjective and varies in each case) amount of money.

occasionally i'll buy a CD but they are for the most part used, and i'll only buy a cd if i can't download the album for free and it's not available on LP. i can't remember the last time i bought a new cd..it was probably the one that came with the free LP version of excellent italian greyhound.

times change, good music doesn't. i understand that it used ot take a long time to get good music. i still remember filling out T&G mail order or calling up russ at matador and asking for certain records, then waiting for them to arrive, then reading the new catalogs only to hop on the phone again and begin the process anew.

everything was better back in the day.

1) Do whatever you like but don't think you'll grasp dick shit about a band or artist just from listening to a bunch of mp3's you got from a dick shit "blog."

2) How do people find the time to listen to the entire dl'ed ESP catalogue and to whatever it is they're buying? I still buy I don't know twenty records a month and I've about an hour of listening time a day tops, so I'm pretty happy just to listen to whatever it is I've bought recently.

When I visit a gallery or museum I usually pick one or two works that grab me for some reason and I spend some good time looking at them. I do this because in my experience running around like a headless chicken wanting to see everything is likely to teach you nothing. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think it's good to have good music come to you in moderate doses. You'll still have time to actively listen to it, think about it, read some shit, &cetera.

I think (too) much dl'ing cheapens ones relationship with good music. If you're fine with that, cool, but it's just that, hey, I'm not going to be too much impressed with your opinion about the UFO Or Die entire back catalogue is all.

Abductor wrote:Apples and oranges (UK: chalk and cheese).

How did it come to be considered chalk and cheese? What makes music different to any other hobby or activity?

That's the part that interests me.

tommydski wrote:

Abductor wrote:Apples and oranges (UK: chalk and cheese).

How did it come to be considered chalk and cheese? What makes music different to any other hobby or activity?

Have you and your mates ever spent a few bob on a cover charge and a few bob more on pints of ale of a Friday night to see your bird ski?

So are you saying that the difference is that people will pay for music?

People will pay for sex but I'm probably not going to become a prostitute.

Not yet, anyway.

My little sister (20) has 500 Gb of music and all of it was stolen.
As I scrolled through it and asked her about some of the bands she replied

"I don't know, I haven't ever listened to almost any of it. I just download anything I have ever heard of."

I didn't even know what to say to that. Not only is she stealing a ton of music but she doesn't even want most of it. It's like collecting POGS to these kids. They all just want huge collections, quality be damned.

I don't own any records I don't want.

tommydski wrote:So are you saying that the difference is that people will pay for music?

You're a bit thick.

Yeah.

Still, I think the way a discussion works is that one person has a premise and another explains his take on it. If you want to expand on what you have said so far, that would be enlightening.

If not, have a good evening.

tommydski wrote:If you want to expand on what you have said so far, that would be enlightening.

I rather doubt that it would, actually.

Good talk.