now, i dig the old metallica songs. they had great riffs, blah blah... and i may be in a minority of an already small group here, but i think the band
sounds better than they ever did.

by that i specifically mean live and the way hetfield's voice comes across. i would love to hear those first two records recorded now. a little better production and trujulio on bass? yeah that would sound good.

bellulah wrote:now, i dig the old metallica songs. they had great riffs, blah blah... and i may be in a minority of an already small group here, but i think the band
sounds better than they ever did.

by that i specifically mean live and the way hetfield's voice comes across. i would love to hear those first two records recorded now. a little better production and trujulio on bass? yeah that would sound good.

And that snare drum! PANGPANGPANGPANGPANG

I am taking it too seriously? Really? (They had a counselor, thats serious.) I'm taking it like they expect people to. They expect people to take them serious, right? Or are you saying they did this to be funny? Lars Ulrich seems to be an extremely serious bloke. The humour you may find in this movie I really don't think was intentional by the band, maybe the Directors / Crew, added the inadvertent humour element in the editing process, because after spending 2 years with these jackoff stars, they had to get a few laughs in at the bands expense.

I realize I am taking it to the extreme, but they are just so fucking blatant in their rock star poses it sickens me. I knew what I was in for, It just went way past my expectations of how lame they are. I just think the whole thing was fake, an advertisement to help sell the new record. Drama seems to sell.

I do realize that it must have some merit, because I have thought about this turd for the last 24 hours now. So I will admit it was somewhat enjoyable, but so is watching documentaries on Pol-Pot and Hitler.

I wasn't aware there were so many metallica fans on here. Sorry, but they have sucked shit sandwiches since "and justice for all". I just don't like their brand of music, call it metal, call it whatever. My tastes in music have changed drastically since I was a 15 yr old headbanger. I guess I must have matured. As far as their records sounding good, I'm not going to touch this one. I will leave that to the members of the board who record bands for a living.

So if you are in the recording trade please let me know your opinions on the back catalog of Metallica records, I'm curious from a technical standpoint how they measure up. I'm sure Pro Tools can make just about any band sound decent. (with the exceptions of korn and limpbiscuit)

ticdouloureaux wrote:I am taking it too seriously? Really? (They had a counselor, thats serious.) I'm taking it like they expect people to. They expect people to take them serious, right? Or are you saying they did this to be funny? Lars Ulrich seems to be an extremely serious bloke. The humour you may find in this movie I really don't think was intentional by the band, maybe the Directors / Crew, added the inadvertent humour element in the editing process, because after spending 2 years with these jackoff stars, they had to get a few laughs in at the bands expense.

ticdouloureaux,

I’ve never given a stray cat’s shit for Metallica, but I applaud your rant, sir. It is noble and it is no doubt a fitting response from someone “taking [this film] like [Metallica] expect[s] people to.â€

Again, I have to say the best bit is Hetfield on his big fucking motorbike (or was it a trike?) saying "I just love to get out on the open road and be anonymous.... erm, in this huge eye-catching contraption".

My favourite bit was when Hetfield was whinging that he missed his family and that he couldn't be there for his kid's first birthday.

Because he was in Russia hunting bears.

Another great moment was when the fired the therapist (phil?) and despite him turning them against each other they'd finally bonded over deciding to tell him to sling his hook. And he's telling them they need him when it's painfully obvious it's he that needs his 40 fucking grand a month.

ticdouloureaux wrote:...it was just a tool to sell more records and try to gain back some of the audience that has left. It just came off like one big advertisement.

An advertisement for what? A middle-aged AA-attending heavy metal band that needs a $40k-a-month life coach to convince them to like each other enough to make an electronica record in 3 years?

Metallica agreed to let the filmmakers (who've made some stunning documentaries before this one) make a documentary about the making of their record. Other than the final live scene, there was nothing I can think of that seemed like a sales pitch.

Anyway - this has been written about elsewhere on this message board, but I loved watching those people who'd known one another for so many years learn how to get along in a totally different way than they ever had before. It was life-affirming. Much of the scenes funny and bizarre and laughable etc., but the thing that struck me was the positive changes in their relationships when it looked like there was no hope.

i thought it was a great movie. very entertaining. i'm not a metallica fan, but i'm always interested in musical group dynamics and that sort of thing.

that continuity error was pretty ridiculous though... the one scene with lars having shoulder length hair... total bullshit....

gcbv wrote:5. The sweaters of the Therapy Guy are astounding.

And his lovely assortment of skin mottlings from over-tanning. Naturally.

Agreeing with spoot,

spoot wrote:...loved watching those people who'd known one another for so many years learn how to get along in a totally different way than they ever had before. It was life-affirming. Much of the scenes funny and bizarre and laughable etc., but the thing that struck me was the positive changes in their relationships when it looked like there was no hope.

I thought that this was a fascinating study in interpersonal dynamics. I was really engaged throughout the whole thing, continuity issues aside. They were surprisingly more articulate than I expected.

Five Favorite Moments from AAlcohollica's "Some Kind of Monster."

1. Lars' reaction pre- and post-going to see Newsted's band play, finally getting the point.

2. "My lifestyle is my deathstyle" and all other examples of the atrocious slambook lyric writing that:

A. Someone actually thought was good enough to share, and said aloud.
B. Was Qualified as "really cool" or "rockin'" etc. by some other member of the band - double points for the Bob Rock Stamp Of Approval
C. Actually made it on to the record.

3. Lars playing the new record for his dad (his ultimate critic), and his dad telling him that it blew.

4. Trujillo's expression when he got the job and the $million signing bonus. This made me feel really happy for him.

5. Towle's "Zone" postings

6. 17 years of Dave Mustaine's angst

7. Hetfield's four-hour "work" schedule, post-rehab, and the paranoia about anybody doing anything, including listening, when he wasn't there.

8. Lars vs. Hetfield regarding Lars's "trying to do something different" drumbeats

9. Happy, validated Newsted

10. Lars' "I was jogging and thinking about coming here and seeing you [Hetfield] and all I could think to myself was FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK"


Okay, that's ten things.