I made it further than you did, but only to see if there was going to be a solo.

Regardless what they did after, or now, "Demanufacture" is still a good album. The playing really came together, and they wrote the strongest album they could have, and managed not to turn it into a joke. The Head of David cover was pretty good, too.

MrFood wrote:So I checked them out on Youtube. They're just.... shit. There's no other word I can use to describe this band. Just total.... shit.

See how far you can make it through.

That's the crap after Demanufacture.

crap.

plus, no one told them the rule about shorts looking really stupid on stage. seriously. only drummers get to wear shorts on stage.

MrFood wrote:See how far you can make it through.

By the start of the second verse when the crappy white-boy rap hand movements come out - I'm gone.

Even better is that I believe that song is called "Edgecrusher" and it was about a robot or something. You need to hear the studio version complete with "whikky-whikky" turntable samples.

Crap; a couple waffles for earlier stuff and having members in Brujeria and Phobia.

MrFood wrote:It sounds like I'm not the only one round here who had a misguided juvenile regard for these shit-apes.

Demanufacture is awful. Go back and listen to it again. It's horrible.

Well, at least we've found the light. I'd rather leave Fear Factory in the past.

i really don't like the vocalist.

they were ok though. i mistook their drumming for a drum machine once when it wasn't, and i'd like to think i'm keen enough to tell the difference. aside from all the hyper-compression and fx, that sort of disguise means the drummer must have good timing, right? so that was impressive. i like the guitars too, they're simple but emphatic, tasteful, and well-performed for that kind of music.

but as an "industrial metal" band, i prefer godflesh and nailbomb; as a "post-thrash" or "groove metal" band i prefer sepultura and pantera. i'm working on something now that i suppose could also be classified as both "industrial metal" and "groove metal," and i'd say it's coming along better than fear factory. in all modesty, i think i can make better drum-machine-n-riff music than them, and i'm pretty sure there are a bunch of others on these boards who can as well. wait a second, steve was in big black, that settles it.

a few fear factory musicians, with the guitarist from the deftones, and b-real from cypress hill, are in a rap-metal group called kush. heard their stuff online once, wasn't great but wasn't bad.

MrFood wrote:

BClark wrote: i mistook their drumming for a drum machine once when it wasn't, and i'd like to think i'm keen enough to tell the difference. aside from all the hyper-compression and fx, that sort of disguise means the drummer must have good timing, right?

It's all sample triggered and quantized.

ahhhh, i see. might as well be a drum machine then i guess. might as well be (or, might be) a slouch of a drummer as well too.

ERawk wrote:
Didn't they also do a bad Gary Neuman cover?

Oh yeah, they did

And I never knew this until now, but apparently Gary Numan collaborated with them on it. Sure looks like him in the video anyway.