geiginni wrote:I have it really good where I am now. I work with two guys who are pilots. One guy who's into home audio. Another guy has some classical music interest. An nobody's a huge sports fanatic.

I wasn't so lucky in Madison. Everyone there was waaayy too much into the friggin' Badgers; all year long. In the fall is was football, in the winter Hockey, in the spring Basketball. And fantasy football, everyone was into that, and NFL pools. And hunting deer. Everyone went deer hunting, and fishing. And crappy action movies. And how they thought the Democrats had the right policies, but couldn't bring themselves to vote for them cause they'd take away their guns. And how Tammy Baldwin was a "carpet muncher". Goddamn, did I need to move to the city!

What makes hunting, fishing and sports (or even action movies) so inane, at least as compared to aviation, home audio and classical music?

I'm curious!

today as my dentist was drilling my mouth he wouldn't stop talking about basketball, and with such great detail... like I knew wtf he was talking about. Why is it that people assume that you are automaticall interested in what they are interested in?

This dude that works for me constantly rambles on about fixing up his house. constantly.

this lady i work with breeds dobermans. she doesn't shut up either. in fact, she will actually get mad at you if you dont seem interested enough. i really hate her.

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:

geiginni wrote:I have it really good where I am now. I work with two guys who are pilots. One guy who's into home audio. Another guy has some classical music interest. An nobody's a huge sports fanatic.

I wasn't so lucky in Madison. Everyone there was waaayy too much into the friggin' Badgers; all year long. In the fall is was football, in the winter Hockey, in the spring Basketball. And fantasy football, everyone was into that, and NFL pools. And hunting deer. Everyone went deer hunting, and fishing. And crappy action movies. And how they thought the Democrats had the right policies, but couldn't bring themselves to vote for them cause they'd take away their guns. And how Tammy Baldwin was a "carpet muncher". Goddamn, did I need to move to the city!

What makes hunting, fishing and sports (or even action movies) so inane, at least as compared to aviation, home audio and classical music?

I'm curious!

I'll let you know......because the manner and content of most of the conversations were things I personally found inane. Why, because I'm not the least bit interested, or interestable in such matters. Since I was in the minority in that environment, nobody gave a shit as I sat there bored out of my friggin' skull at some lunch as everyone talked enthusiastically about the minutiae of Badger football, Ice fishing, or Tomb Raider.

Now I'm in an environment where I share similar interests with my coworkers, and I really appreciate that. Where I to take a former coworker out to lunch with us they'd probably be bored shitless, which would serve them right.

It's all based on perspective, which is what any single response here is.

My wife can't stand pregnant women in the office. The inane shit that they get into - as if they're the first woman to ever be pregnant, but most women looove talking about pregnancy and baby shit. So what?

I normally don't talk with anyone at any length about anything I'm interested in.

I know they don't give a flying fuck. I have had this as the case for my entire life. My parents, coworkers, friends, family, etc......

It is so rare to meet anyone that shares my interests, or level of such, that when it happens I'm caught totally off guard. Yesterday I was at the Chicago Art Institute. Upon examining the Dali painting "The Chemist Carefully Peels Back the Cuticle of a Grand Piano..." I realized that the figure below the likeness of Richard Wagner in the lower right-hand corner of the painting looked like Claude Debussy. It was very faint, as his eyes were not visible, but the manner of dress, the lips and beard were all convincingly Debussy. He is shown reading a newspaper. I had seen this painting at least a half-dozen times before, but had not noticed this detail. I went to find a curator, but to no avail as they had the day off. Instead I spoke with the head of information. He was quite excited by my discovery and said he would speak to the curator of the Modern section, that I should call back, and that this may be new information. As, a result I was quite pleased with myself, and went home.

Is anyone bored senseless yet???

geiginni wrote: Yesterday I was at the Chicago Art Institute. Upon examining the Dali painting "The Chemist Carefully Peels Back the Cuticle of a Grand Piano..." I realized that the figure below the likeness of Richard Wagner in the lower right-hand corner of the painting looked like Claude Debussy. It was very faint, as his eyes were not visible, but the manner of dress, the lips and beard were all convincingly Debussy. He is shown reading a newspaper. I had seen this painting at least a half-dozen times before, but had not noticed this detail.

shit, you're right! i have seen that painting, and i know the guy you are talking about. he is very distinctive, but it never occurred to me that he looks like debussy.

but he DOES look like debussy

geiginni wrote:Is anyone bored senseless yet?

You should see the Tokihiro Sato "photo-respiration" exhibit, which runs through May 8 at the Art Institute and is not inane.

I did not go yesterday. I am waiting to go with my wife who enjoys photography. It looks quite interesting. I am interested in what kind of film and aperture he uses for such long daylight exposures.

I built a 4x5 pinhole camera about ten years ago. I used a .010 guitar string to make the pinhole. The calcuated average F-stop was 1/256! It had a zoomable focal length as I had built it as a pair of telescoping wood boxes that interlocked. It worked well with Ilford HP400 and about an 5-12 minute exposure in sunlight...

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:

geiginni wrote:Is anyone bored senseless yet?

You should see the Tokihiro Sato "photo-respiration" exhibit, which runs through May 8 at the Art Institute and is not inane.

hey, thanks for the info. i think this guy's pictures are great, and i did not know there was a whole exhibit of him at the art inst.

i will have to go

geiginni wrote: I am interested in what kind of film and aperture he uses for such long daylight exposures.

I built a 4x5 pinhole camera about ten years ago. I used a .010 guitar string to make the pinhole. The calcuated average F-stop was 1/256! It had a zoomable focal length as I had built it as a pair of telescoping wood boxes that interlocked. It worked well with Ilford HP400 and about an 5-12 minute exposure in sunlight...

This reminds me that there are four photos on the top floor of the newly reopened MOMA in NYC. The information there explains that they are THREE YEAR exposures of the building of the new building that houses the MOMA. Pretty amazing to behold.

(...and that was my 1000th post....and it was not about Slint... well, not directly..)

geiginni wrote:I built a 4x5 pinhole camera about ten years ago. I used a .010 guitar string to make the pinhole. The calcuated average F-stop was 1/256! It had a zoomable focal length as I had built it as a pair of telescoping wood boxes that interlocked. It worked well with Ilford HP400 and about an 5-12 minute exposure in sunlight...

this reminds me of a crazy thing my crazy friend did some years ago... he had an apartment where his bedroom overlooked the police station at addison and halsted. he completely sealed up all of the windows and hung sheets over the door, so it was *pitch black* in there even in broad daylight. and then he made a single hole in the window coverings, i do not recall the size, maybe a dime or something, i should ask him. but what it did was make his bedroom into a pinhole camera, minus the film and all. but you could just sit there in a chair, inside the pinhole camera, watching the outdoors unfold on the walls and ceiling (with everything inverted of course). watching cop cars parking on his ceiling and seeing little cops (a few inches tall) walk around was hella cool. i swear i wasn't in "art school" at the time, wink wink.

it was so choice. if you have the means, i highly recommend making one.

**EDIT** talked to him about it. hole size was a little smaller than a dime. he said the circularity of the hole is hugely important for a good image, and that he tried a couple things before ultimately ending up using a metal washer, cutting a hole bigger than the washer, and taping the washer in there with all kinda tape.