Jesus Wept
After reading some and scanning a lot it seems that everyone has agreed that they are agnostic - one way or the other.
Except Matthew of course.
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342Rick Reuben wrote:I know what is written about him, which is all that anyone knows about God.Linus Van Pelt wrote:You know what God commands?
Nobody knows anything about God. I thought you knew that.
A theist expresses full belief in a deity.
Noun 1. theist - one who believes in the existence of a god or gods
Don't you mean "one who fully believes in the existence of a god or gods"?
Why do you make it so scary to post here.
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343Bob, are you a Christian?
I won't be replying to any answer as I've been all over this topic again and again, my views are pretty clear and stating them again would be rather pointless, so a simple "yes or no" will be fine.
I won't be replying to any answer as I've been all over this topic again and again, my views are pretty clear and stating them again would be rather pointless, so a simple "yes or no" will be fine.
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344Rick Reuben wrote:Linus Van Pelt wrote:Rick Reuben wrote:I know what is written about him, which is all that anyone knows about God.Linus Van Pelt wrote:You know what God commands?
Nobody knows anything about God. I thought you knew that.
Wow, your reading skills get worse and worse. I said that:
I
knew
what
has
been
written
about
him.
right, but then you did actually say:
which
is
all
that
anyone
knows
about
God.
Which I took to mean, for some wacky reason, that you think that what we know about God is what has been written about him. This doesn't make any sense in light of the fact that what we know about God is nothing. You are slipping, and you're right to be embarrassed. You're not right to take your embarrassment out on me, but no one can be surprised by that.
Did I need to spell it for you, to make you recognize that I was obviously referring to what humans had written about God??
Obviously that's what you meant. Which is why it was so strange, that you seem to think that knowledge of god can come from human writings.
Get some sleep, kid.
Why do you make it so scary to post here.
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345CB,
Do you mean all the shit you say? I'm really curious to know whether you're profoundly dishonest or profoundly stupid.
Love,
Linus
Do you mean all the shit you say? I'm really curious to know whether you're profoundly dishonest or profoundly stupid.
Love,
Linus
Why do you make it so scary to post here.
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346Rick Reuben wrote:Did you mean it when you thought 9/11 was organized by al Qaeda and when you thought that the Fed was controlled by the US government?Linus Van Pelt wrote:Do you mean all the shit you say?
I guess I'll put you down for "a little from column A, and a little from column B."
EDIT: No reason to derail this thread. If you want to ask me about some dumb bullshit, you've got threads for that.
You may assume that, other than sarcasm or jest, I have meant everything I've written here at the time I wrote it. I can't promise that, in 3+ years, some opinions haven't changed, but if you have to choose between telling yourself I'm stupid and dishonest, tell yourself I'm stupid. You may not assume, however, that I mean everything you think I've written that I haven't written. And when I say "you may not assume," I mean "you probably will assume."
Why do you make it so scary to post here.
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347Rick Reuben wrote:Wacky is right. You managed twice to overlook the fact that I was speaking about the Word Of Man.
The only reason people have any formed opinions about what God might be are because they have had these stories imprinted on their minds. None of us *know* what God looks like either, but 98% of us in western societies see a big white bearded guy if we envision God in our minds, and if you tell me you don't, you're lying again.
God is what has been written and told about him.

Linus van Pelt wrote:you're right to be embarrassed
Are there any more stupid tangents you want to pursue tonight, or do you want to answer something real, like the question about why so many atheists think their atheism gives them a license to express bigotry against their fellow man?
How am I supposed to know what motivates people who live only in your mind?
Why do you make it so scary to post here.
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348Linus van Pelt wrote:No reason to derail this thread.
I can see why you'd want to change the subject, though.
Linus van Pelt wrote:you're right to be embarrassed
Oh right, and
Linus van Pelt wrote:You may not assume, however, that I mean everything you think I've written that I haven't written. And when I say "you may not assume," I mean "you probably will assume."
Why do you make it so scary to post here.
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349Rick Reuben wrote:
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If you turn your monitor on its side and look at this. It's the New York City skyline. These figures are from 1998. You know what is missing? The towers!
Try to deny that.
But in all seriousness-- I understand why you sympathize with Christians. You are even more full of it than they are.
You are just a contrary bullshit-peddler trying to find a way to make intellectualism exciting and edgy. In the process-- any semblance of intellectualism is lost.
PS: The last two or three times I have argued with you, you have insisted that I slipped up and worded something incorrectly. I said exactly what I wanted to say to you. Please don't do that again. I understand that logic and rationalism are difficult concepts for you to bear, but that doesn't mean you have to reconstruct an argument that is easier for you to contend with... again.
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350big_dave wrote::bloodfart:
I would go see this band. I would drive up to thirty-eight miles to see this band. Without the colons before and after.
With the colons-- Ninety miles.