Steve V. wrote:I actually have this machine. I don't think it's a bad piece of equipment at all.

who said it was

steve wrote:It was a TEAC 3340.

I made some cool recordings on one of these .
Live to two tracks then overdubs on 3 and 4 .

bulldrummer wrote:

Steve V. wrote:I actually have this machine. I don't think it's a bad piece of equipment at all.

who said it was

TEACs sometimes come with the connotation of being subpar machines. At least on other boards I've posted on. They're usually not as highly commended as an Otari or something like that.

Properly used, they're bulletproof. Need standard upkeep of course, just like any machine. Really easy to work on too.

oh

i'm sure this has been addressed before in the past - but the search engine isn't helping me here.

ok, we got the big black recording set up. but what effects did they use to achieve the tone on the guitars and the bass...? i've seen the videos, pics of their gear, and it just doesn't add up for me. how are those things making those sounds...?

someone throw me a polite bone, please.





-joshua...

maybe they practiced black magic to help their sound... that would explain a lot..

helenforsdale wrote:i'm sure this has been addressed before in the past - but the search engine isn't helping me here.

ok, we got the big black recording set up. but what effects did they use to achieve the tone on the guitars and the bass...? i've seen the videos, pics of their gear, and it just doesn't add up for me. how are those things making those sounds...?

someone throw me a polite bone, please.

-joshua...

[polite response]

Josh,

Um...the "Lungs" set-up was just Mr. Albini, I believe. There was some guy doing sax bleats too. That's about it. I think Mr. Albini was using a guitar cobbled together from pieces of other guitars, so it is very unlikely you could manipulate his sound and very unique playing style. Remember, Mr. Albini's tone comes from his attack. It's another one of those cases where you could get pretty much the exact same set-up, but you'll only be about halfway there to getting the "Big Black" sound. Mr. Albini could play a Les Paul through a Marshall and still sound like himself, I'm willing to bet.

I think the bass was fretless. Don't quote me on that. That would change the sound a bit from a normal, fretted bass.

Remember, this was a self-recorded outing from a twenty year old guy in a room. I doubt everything was meticulously crafted, most likely a lot of the sounds and tones were somewhat "happy accidents." It is not the most fully formed BB record, it is just one guy, and I remember an NME interview where Mr. Albini called it fairly "self-obsessed." So if you are attempting to achieve the same dynamic, you may not considering you'll have more than one person recording. The sound of one guy recording four parts is very different than three or four guys recording four parts.

Please don't take offense to my statements, I'm trying to help you out. Best of luck on the recording. You'll probably be surprised with what will come out when experimenting with techniques. You may have an excellent record when it's all said and done.

And I'm only going on what I've heard or read about the record. I don't think Mr. Albini has corroborated anything I've just said, so..."crapshoot."

[/polite response]

hah. that was indeed polite, so thanks.


sorry - i didn't mean lungs - i meant the later stuff. i should have been more specific.
yeah, i'm aware that most of their tone comes from how they play their instruments for sure. i'm just wondering if there's more than just instrument, distortion, amp.
a fuck load of reverb? chorus? i can't quite put my finger on it. i'm a bassist my self, so i suppose i'm more interested in how dave did what he did. the videos i've seen, he's using a cheap peavey bass and svt cab.



best,



-joshua...



[polite response]

Josh,

Um...the "Lungs" set-up was just Mr. Albini, I believe. There was some guy doing sax bleats too. That's about it. I think Mr. Albini was using a guitar cobbled together from pieces of other guitars, so it is very unlikely you could manipulate his sound and very unique playing style. Remember, Mr. Albini's tone comes from his attack. It's another one of those cases where you could get pretty much the exact same set-up, but you'll only be about halfway there to getting the "Big Black" sound. Mr. Albini could play a Les Paul through a Marshall and still sound like himself, I'm willing to bet.

I think the bass was fretless. Don't quote me on that. That would change the sound a bit from a normal, fretted bass.

Remember, this was a self-recorded outing from a twenty year old guy in a room. I doubt everything was meticulously crafted, most likely a lot of the sounds and tones were somewhat "happy accidents." It is not the most fully formed BB record, it is just one guy, and I remember an NME interview where Mr. Albini called it fairly "self-obsessed." So if you are attempting to achieve the same dynamic, you may not considering you'll have more than one person recording. The sound of one guy recording four parts is very different than three or four guys recording four parts.

Please don't take offense to my statements, I'm trying to help you out. Best of luck on the recording. You'll probably be surprised with what will come out when experimenting with techniques. You may have an excellent record when it's all said and done.

And I'm only going on what I've heard or read about the record. I don't think Mr. Albini has corroborated anything I've just said, so..."crapshoot."

[/polite response][/quote]

helenforsdale wrote: i'm a bassist my self, so i suppose i'm more interested in how dave did what he did. the videos i've seen, he's using a cheap peavey bass and svt cab.

The liner notes to Songs About Fucking claim he's using Alembic basses and Trace Elliot amps. This could be a joke, of course; I was six when they put that record out and sixteen when I first / finally heard it.

dave riley used a peavey t40 through an ampeg svt thru a peavey 215.

santiago durango had a tele with bartolini pickups.

steve had a cobbled together strat and ran thru something thru a trayor 115 cab.

all i (think i) know.