Traynor YBA200 - If You re Looking for Answers, Get In Here!

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caix wrote:it's not a bad head, but not if you want to be loud. if you're on a small budget and want a tube head, it's worth owning just to get started. unfortunately, there really aren't many tube heads that are under a grand. so sooner or later you're going to find out a way to get the head you really want, because you'll end up just working your way towards that SVT anyway. it's unfortunate that the YBA is what it is. Traynor thought of good ways to modernize a tube head, but ended up making it too inexpensive, and in turn underpowered. If they made it 300w, it would have the power to contend well against the SVT and probably at half the price. the YBA200 sounds very thin and lacks a lot of low end. It's got a lot of growl and not much else. so it has it's merits, just not what i'm looking for. the solid state heads i was using before it were much louder and ballsier. the svt on the other hand, i'm only playing at %25 volume and i get the tube sound i want out of it and all that head room to find the right tone. the traynor was at full volume and could barely keep up. that's 200w for you i guess. my dave eden traveler has more deep tone than the YBA.


what you're describing sounds a lot like my mesa boogie buster head. 200 watts, lots of growl, not a whole lot of low end. i keep looking for an alternative to the SVT, but i suspect i'm gonna end up having to take that loan out after all... hehe.

Traynor YBA200 - If You re Looking for Answers, Get In Here!

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phildotidiot wrote:
caix wrote:it's not a bad head, but not if you want to be loud. if you're on a small budget and want a tube head, it's worth owning just to get started. unfortunately, there really aren't many tube heads that are under a grand. so sooner or later you're going to find out a way to get the head you really want, because you'll end up just working your way towards that SVT anyway. it's unfortunate that the YBA is what it is. Traynor thought of good ways to modernize a tube head, but ended up making it too inexpensive, and in turn underpowered. If they made it 300w, it would have the power to contend well against the SVT and probably at half the price. the YBA200 sounds very thin and lacks a lot of low end. It's got a lot of growl and not much else. so it has it's merits, just not what i'm looking for. the solid state heads i was using before it were much louder and ballsier. the svt on the other hand, i'm only playing at %25 volume and i get the tube sound i want out of it and all that head room to find the right tone. the traynor was at full volume and could barely keep up. that's 200w for you i guess. my dave eden traveler has more deep tone than the YBA.


what you're describing sounds a lot like my mesa boogie buster head. 200 watts, lots of growl, not a whole lot of low end. i keep looking for an alternative to the SVT, but i suspect i'm gonna end up having to take that loan out after all... hehe.


I played the SVT CL and the VR right next to each other, I found the CL to be more clean and not have that legendary mid-range, but it was still a good sound regardless. Granted, it's $1600 head, though you can find them used around $1200.

I bet if you looked hard enough, you could find something in your budget that comes close to the SVT. Like I said, the Monoblock is pretty damn close, but they're hard to find and usually broken. I found one on ebay for $100 bucks, spend $250 fixing it. Pretty inexpensive, kind of a hassle. Worth it, though.

The Fender Bassman 300 is a Sunn Model T. Not a bad head if it has what you're looking for. New, they run for $1200. Would be worth checking out, if you can find one in a store.
Builder/Destroyer | Highwheel Records

Traynor YBA200 - If You re Looking for Answers, Get In Here!

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caix wrote:I played the SVT CL and the VR right next to each other, I found the CL to be more clean and not have that legendary mid-range, but it was still a good sound regardless. Granted, it's $1600 head, though you can find them used around $1200.

I bet if you looked hard enough, you could find something in your budget that comes close to the SVT. Like I said, the Monoblock is pretty damn close, but they're hard to find and usually broken. I found one on ebay for $100 bucks, spend $250 fixing it. Pretty inexpensive, kind of a hassle. Worth it, though.


caix and jermwelfare wrote:Fender Bassman 300


thanks for the suggestions. i read up a bit on the svt cl and vr and from everything i've read, the vr is worth the extra money. truth be told, all i've done is read up. one of these days i'm gonna go down to guitar center and plug them all in. that fender bassman 300 sounds pretty cool too. i'll have to add that to the list.

i wouldn't mind finding a broken monoblock... i've also been reading up on how to fix amps. it might be fun to work on... or it might be a good way to kill myself... hehe. but it doesn't seem like that stuff is too easy to find. part of me wants to go with something brand new anyway.... i'm constantly breaking all my stuff (not on purpose of course)... i figure something new might go a year or two before it breaks... hehe.

Traynor YBA200 - If You re Looking for Answers, Get In Here!

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Before I bought my SVT, I thought long and hard about buying a vintage one v.s. a new one. I actually found a nice new one that came with the original 2x15. The prices for the vintage SVTs are the same as the new one.

From what I've read, the reissues are pretty closely designed to the originals, with some updated electronics. For one, they use newer preamp tubes. They also have bias adjusters on the back of the amp if one were to retube it themselves. I figured, for the same price and the same sound (I had already played several vintage heads and the reissue significantly), I'd rather buy brand new instead of inheriting someone else's problems.

I've been happy so far. I've had it for a month now and it's the best head I've ever owned. I don't regret spending the cash on it, so my suggestion to you is, if that's the head you really want, then go for it.

Since this is all theoretically to you, my offer still stands for you to come to my practice space and listen to the SVT against the YBA, Monoblock and Eden, and then whatever head you choose to bring with you.
Builder/Destroyer | Highwheel Records

Traynor YBA200 - If You re Looking for Answers, Get In Here!

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caix wrote:Since this is all theoretically to you, my offer still stands for you to come to my practice space and listen to the SVT against the YBA, Monoblock and Eden, and then whatever head you choose to bring with you.


thanks for the offer caix, but i, unfortunately, will not be in chicago any time soon. i'm actually investing in an EGC bass (i'm gonna need two loans.... hehe) so i'm waiting for that to be done before i make any decisions. after that i'll start testing things out while saving/begging/selling stuff etc.

Traynor YBA200 - If You re Looking for Answers, Get In Here!

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caix wrote:
Yngwie Einstein wrote:Why did you replace the tubes? Did they go bad? I'm asking because my YBA200 crapped out on me last week and I am wondering if this is symptomatic of the amp in general. I can't tell if I just blew a tube or a resistor or whatnot. Can't find the friggin' receipt and it s/b under the two-year warranty. Oh, and I can't seem to locate a Traynor dealer in the Chicago area that does warranty service. Ugh! Enough about me.

Other than that, I pretty much like the way the amp sounds.


Get it checked out by a pro. Sounds like you had what I had, which was a signal overload that blew a power tube, then a resister. My repairman blamed most of it on the quality of the power tubes. He ended up putting in what he felt were better tubes.



Curious about this signal overload issue. Mine blew over the weekend while I was trying to get a bass sound for a metal band. THe bass player had an active bass plugged into the high input. Never had any problems before, but I vaguely remember warnings about active pickups and high inputs. Can anybody elaborate for me?

Traynor YBA200 - If You re Looking for Answers, Get In Here!

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Yngwie Einstein wrote:The picture is becoming clearer. I also play a bass with active pickups. And I encountered the same thing. So much for buying on the cheap.


Yeah. A pattern is forming. I've searched high and low for this kind of information, and we just created quite a nice little source here for other bass players. My bass has active and passive pickups. I believe I blew my head when I had active switched on.

Searching the web, I found one thing consistent (here as well), a bass player with not a lot of money wants a good tube head and can't afford an SVT. In the end, the YBA200 doesn't fulfill the needs of the bass player. Seems pretty obvious what Traynor (or any amp manufacturer) could do to resolve this. The head is nice, but only in theory. Make the damn thing powerful and keep it around $1000! It would be a much better deal than what they currently have.
Builder/Destroyer | Highwheel Records

Traynor YBA200 - If You re Looking for Answers, Get In Here!

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OK, I took the YBA200 in to Matt at Rock and Roll Vintage in Lincoln Square on a recommendation from a friend.

Long story, short: One of the Sovtek 6550s went bad and took out a couple resistors. So I am upgrading the four power tubes and replacing the resistors and all should be better than new.

When I was originally looking into buying this amp a couple years ago, I did read online that some people had problems with the power tubes (or didn't like them) and had to replace the 6550s. I could have replaced the one tube and a couple resistors and saved some cash, but I decided to have all four 6550s replaced to avoid a similar fate in the future.

I do still really like the sound of the YBA200. I probably don't need as much wattage in the cottage as Caix, as I'm only in a three-piece and the guitar player plays through an Ampeg Superjet/Fender Vibrochamp setup. Since replacing tubes on this amp is fairly easy, I would almost recommend (if I knew anything) just replacing the power tubes before you need to get the amp serviced. At least you would save on the labor.
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