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Teen girls face life in prison over nothing

121 by richterbjack_Archive
Mandroid2.0 wrote:If the victim had wound up brain injured, would you have had a different opinion? I seem to remember some of you spouting different opinions over on the "girl beaten for being goth" thread.


Victim #1 beaten by morons, but not left with any permanent damage. Victim #2 brutally murdered in the fucking street by morons. Maybe people are spouting different opinions because they're two different scenarios, aside from the common denominator of girls getting beaten by morons.

Otherwise, everything The Code is Almighty already said above.

edit: butter fingers

Teen girls face life in prison over nothing

123 by Earwicker_Archive
richterbjack wrote:
Mandroid2.0 wrote:If the victim had wound up brain injured, would you have had a different opinion? I seem to remember some of you spouting different opinions over on the "girl beaten for being goth" thread.


Victim #1 beaten by morons, but not left with any permanent damage. Victim #2 brutally murdered in the fucking street by morons. Maybe people are spouting different opinions because they're two different scenarios, aside from the common denominator of girls getting beaten by morons.

Otherwise, everything The Code is Almighty already said above.

edit: butter fingers


The two scenarios differ primarily for me in that the people doing the beatings in the goth killing were boys.

On saying that they are similar in all but the end result. The fact is these girls bullied and beat on this other girl. They knocked her unconscious (given what they gloat over we have no reason to disbelieve that) They prevented her from leaving when she tried to escape and continued to beat her. And they seemed to do it all for kicks.
Exactly like the dickheads who kicked the goth in.
I imagine they had no intention of killing the goth but they did cause that can happen when you brutally attack someone.

I can scarcely believe that some people on here seem to be criticising the victim here for trying to do something about this - it's unbelievable.

Fuck the little mongs who killed the goth and fuck these mentally stunted little bullies in this clip. My heart has far too many other things to bleed for before I start worrying about them and their stint in an orange jump suit sharing a cell with big sally.

I thought I grew up with a fairly rough background but I don't know of anyone who was brought to a house and kicked the fuck out of by 6 other kids.

This is not just 'what kids do to each other'.

Teen girls face life in prison over nothing

124 by Isabelle Gall_Archive
Marsupialized wrote:
steve wrote:When I think of all the shit I did as a teenager and the sentences I could get for it in the current lock-em-up climate, I shiver.


You are correct on this, Jesus I think about all the pipe bombs and whatnot we'd make and blow shit up with....we'd all be in Guantanamo right now.


Did either of you do anything resembling the specific case here? I doubt it.

The girls are violent, sadistic bullies who calculatedly carried out something really cold and then gloated over it. Boo fucking hoo they might go to prison.

Childhood-Poverty-Violence?
Violence-Childhood-Poverty?
Poverty-Violence-Childhood?

Which one is it going to be today, EA forum?

Teen girls face life in prison over nothing

125 by SecondEdition_Archive
Mandroid2.0 wrote:If the victim had wound up brain injured, would you have had a different opinion? I seem to remember some of you spouting different opinions over on the "girl beaten for being goth" thread.


Certainly, yes.
Life...life...I know it's got its ups and downs.

Groucho Marx wrote:Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies.

Teen girls face life in prison over nothing

126 by tmidgett_Archive
steve wrote:The greater point y'all are missing is that the for-profit prison industry prefers inmates to non-inmates, and if it requires warping the social fabric and legal system to turn teenagers into incarceration-eligible "adults," then it will happen, by whatever scare tactics or bribery is necessary.

Prisons need inmates. They'll take them however they can get them. Three-strike laws, children tried as adults, whatever. Just keep sending them away.

When I think of all the shit I did as a teenager and the sentences I could get for it in the current lock-em-up climate, I shiver.


Agreed.

Plus people just have a thirst for revenge, wherever they can get it.

I saw the 'raw' video. Maybe they left stuff out of what was released to the media. The thing on the internet is about one step past a slap fight.

One girl seemed to understand her forearm might make a decent club, but these were small girls who didn't seem that bent on doing any serious damage. I'm sure it was humiliating, but you don't get prison time for humiliating someone.

Teen girls face life in prison over nothing

127 by Heeby Jeeby_Archive
anyone suggesting these girls get life for what was essentially a common beating is a fucking nut.

conversely, anyone who thinks that these fucking muppets should go unpunished cos they're 16 and 'i did some bad shit when i was a kid' is also a fucking nut.

the victim has learned a valuable lesson for life. don't put yourself in situations where you are likely to get a beating. now the attackers should learn a lesson about not being a scumbag, but learning this lesson should not cost them their whole futures.

violence cannot be condoned. i'm no limp-wristed fucker either and have been involved in enough fights to last me lifetime.

saying that i have seen the possible effects of violence like this. i have seen broken noses that never set properly leaving the person with no sense of smell (minor but annoying), i have seen a guy lose his left testicle (majorly painful and serious) and i have seen a guy get his head kicked in who can no longer talk with his child or anyone for more than one hour a day and has to learn to walk again (fucked up)

Teen girls face life in prison over nothing

129 by FuzzBob_Archive
Boombats wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:
Arson Smith wrote:I applaud the victim for being smart/brave enough to not buy into that line of bullshit. You fall for that, and then they'd know they've *completely* punked you, and then you could be marked as a punching bag for life


Yes it's so brave to run and tell on someone when they are fucking with you. That's what we need to teach people, to be more of a crybaby pussy unable to stand up for yourself and fix your own problems. Run to the police. Yes they usually fix things.


She's a teenage girl, you really expect her to go ninja and exact revenge all tough like? She did the right thing going to the cops in this instance. This ain't the wild wild west, showdowns are unnecessary and unrealistic. Your tough guy code of honor does not apply in this case.


True, nor is it worth it for an honor student trying to get into a good school to get her own record tarnished over a scuffle with a bunch of rednecks.
iembalm wrote:Can I just point out, Rick, that this rant is in a thread about a cartoon?

Teen girls face life in prison over nothing

130 by numberthirty_Archive
Marsupialized wrote:Some people seem to be of the mindset that children need to be coddled and protected from every harsh reality of life at all costs. Let them make no wrong decisions! Let them never learn of the consequences of said wrong decisions!

Tell me, what happens when they grow up and leave the smothering nest and someone fucks with them? What do they do? Curl up in a ball in the middle of the street? Let the person have their way with them, then run and tell?

What kind of person will come out of a childhood like that? This is not a nice, cozy world we live in. If you step into the wrong situation you are likely to be fucked pretty hard. To raise a child away from any sort of hardship whatsoever at all costs, it's not doing the kid a service. That kid will be eaten alive.

To perpetuate this whole 'Oh dear lord they are yelling and punching this poor helpless girl, how brutal! Send them to prison for life!' Is not doing anyone any good. Kids see this and all they think is 'well, I will never have to take personal responsibility for any trouble I ever get into, I will just do whatever and I can always go and tell if I get into trouble'
Why isn't anyone saying 'what was this girl thinking hanging out with these wacked out trashy ass chicks to begin with?' and they say they beat her ass because she was talking shit about them. Maybe she learns it's not such a good idea to talk shit about a bunch of wacked out violent ass white trash chicks you go to school with.
Maybe next time be a little more careful about the situations you put yourself into and the people you find yourself around. Those are just about the most important skills I can imagine a human could have.


Actually, not taping yourself while commiting a crime could be more important skill than that last part you're talking about.
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