Yes, it is a lot easier to notice your surroundings while going 20mph in first gear.

Conchis wrote:Still, no matter how well you think you know yourself, you are unnecessarily risking other peoples' lives if you drive baked. Any denial of that is pompous ignorance.

Very very dangerous, for me anyway.

Can't decide what I want to listen to, stopping at red lights like a half block before the white line.

All split second decision to crank the wheel into Cub Foods cos some Hot Pockets sound good.

Crap.

I personally cannot do this anymore because I don't smoke as often and I can't concentrate no matter how hard I try when I do decide to smoke and opperate some kind of machinery.

I totalled a truck all faded many years ago. It wasn't my fault, I hit a tow truck hick who was driving like a chump and no cops showed up to the accident even though it happened right in front of the sheriff station.


Not Crap for people who can hang. I can't though.

to say "oh, stoned driving... it's intoxicated driving, it's driving under the influence, period."... and to put stoned driving in the same league as drunk driving is absurd... it really only serves to trivialize drunk driving, and it reflects a poor knowledge of real world statistics surrounding the damage done by stoned drivers vs drunk drivers.

drunk driving should not be trivialized... drunk drivers are the most volatile, destructive, and dangerous population of drug abusers in the world. they're worse than junkies and crackheads combined. yknow those sensationalized news stories about street drugs... a dude on crack took a woman into the woods and raped her... a dude on meth took a woman into the woods and skinned her... but when you hear about drunk driving it's always a matter of "this 'regular guy' who likes to have a few beers 'just like you and me' had a stroke of 'bad luck'"... fuck that, drunk drivers are scumbags.

no degree of mainstream acceptability will ever legitimize the damage done by users of such a volatile drug as alcohol.

drinking fucks with your motor skills on such a serious level, far more than most drugs, and if you don't agree, you're either an alcoholic in denial or you have never been drunk. as you'd expect from a drug like marijuana (that has a far more mild effect on your motor skills), the accident statistics surrounding stoned drivers pale in comparison to those of drunk drivers. i rarely use the term "pale in comparison" but i feel the need to here, because i cannot stress the statistical disparity enough.

again i should reiterate... if the mainstream world, or at least in america, is comfortable with dealing with the damage done by drunks on a daily basis (lots of damage, and it happens every day... it's going down tonight, quite possibly in your area), or at least comfortable enough to allow it to be legal, why not at least legalize marijuana?

again, it's a backwards world i tell ya!

I've passed a roadside DUI test while stoned.

Great for those long highway trips.

Crap when you're in a strange town & don't know your way around.

Nice warm summer day, radio up loud, cruising around stoned out of your mind without a care in the world.
Not Crap

When I'm stoned and doing anything physical, I tend to get the feeling that life is a videogame.

That said, driving while stoned is probably not the wisest option for me.

When I used to smoke, I took driving as serious business. Like I was flying a plane or something. But I'm sure everyone takes it differently so there are waffles flying everywhere. Whoa.

okra wrote:I've passed a roadside DUI test while stoned.

I'm sure there are people out there who have passed roadside DUI tests while drunk. So what? That one experience means little to the debate. A drunk driver who has a twenty minute drive home can drive really well for 19 of those minutes, but all it takes is one mistake for them to wreck their budget, driving record, or far worse. Same thing applies to weed.

And saying that driving while stoned trivializes actual drunk driving? Wow, way to rationalize irresponsible behavior. Your mind is altered when baked. Sure it's a completely different vibe than booze, and I think fair to say less of a physical impairment, but it's still qualifies as intoxication to my mind.

And to the guy who thinks just because he personally kept his speed limit to 20mph while baked that that somehow makes it OK? That's pretty silly too. I have a friend who did much the same thing in college, except a couple times he forgot to turn on his headlights. Too busy concentrating on speed. Oops.

For all those of you who do it, either seldom or frequently, lemme ask would you do with your child (or a niece or a nephew) in the back?

Conchis wrote:For all those of you who do it, either seldom or frequently, lemme ask would you do with your child (or a niece or a nephew) in the back?

no, i don't do it with anyone who doesn't already know the risk of me behind the wheel. even though, i don't think it is much of a risk. i live in a small city, everywhere i'm going is 10minutes away, 20 tops. no sharp turns, no fast speeds, and not a lot of pedestrians.

still, i'd rather not drive in any sort of condition other than sober. though, the only accidents i've had behind a wheel have been when i was sober.