don't play to a click, play with feeling.

John George Peppers wrote:don't play to a click, play with feeling.

Find that in a fortune cookie?

don't pray to a crick, pray with fearing.

Studio: not crap, with a high waffle factor. Sometimes it's necessary, but it needs to be applied at the right times or it can make a band sound too 'stiff.'


Live I am gonna say pretty much crap, I would much rather hear you hitting the samples and tracks live and on the fly then letting your computer do all the work for you.
There are plenty of bands who can pull of complex shit that is tight as fuck without a click, and that is much much more impressive.

Marsupialized wrote:What about playing to a dick?

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Geez...you can limit your audience to just a few people who really "get" you if you want, but it just seems so pointless.

That's how I feel about playing to a clique.

givemenoughrope wrote:Is there a program that can spit out a click that varies a bit? There must be.

when a human varies, you can use things like eye contact and physical movement to help match each other. when a click varies, that just stinks.

world of pee wrote:

givemenoughrope wrote:Is there a program that can spit out a click that varies a bit? There must be.

when a human varies, you can use things like eye contact and physical movement to help match each other. when a click varies, that just stinks.

You misunderstood. I agree, eye contact and movement cues are good (almost necessary) for drastic or even subtle changes in tempo, but I kinda think that anything more than just listening while playing at a given tempo won't keep a band locked without a click. In other words, if everyone is playing at 150 bpm or so and there is no click, the best way for me to stay locked is to stare at the floor or somewhere and listen to the minute shifts, the push and pull. That's just me.

A person cannot play like a metronome. It's highly improbable that each stroke with exactly on. The tempo may not drift so much but the time it takes for a person to play 32 bars of 4/4 at 130 bpm will almost always be different (if not always, and I mean down to the sample) than a computer/metronome. My question is: is there a computer program that can randomize each beat just slightly enough that it also changes the total time to play the given amount of music? I'm sure it can be done but has someone made one yet?

That BFD program as well as most software sequencers have functions that allow the smallest subdivisions of midi messages to be shifted at random within the desired range but they always keep everything around the computer/metronome click/beat/bar/whatever. Is there something that actually stretches the bar?

I don't even know what 'playing to a click' means.

Is there actualy a loud clicking noise in the room or over the headphones when you record?

That's fucking retarded if that's the case. Why would you do that? Who cares if it's perfect time? If it sounds cool you are done, no?

i'll inject some useful technique in the thread: version 7 of ableton live has a handy new tool that can put the issue to rest for studio use. have your drummer play as messy as they want, mark his track with tempo markers, and then it can be used as a tempo master for any additional sequences. so even if the drummer speeds up and slows down without mercy, your epic trance arpeggios will stay in time with the sloppy drumming.