Jujyfruits wrote:The Birthday Party for miles. Joy Division was boring as fuck. TBP was a lot more intense than JD and, judging for what I've seen, their shows were way more exciting.

And anyway JD never had a bass player with a see-through shirt, big moustache and cowboy hat. Just that would beat almost every band.

Honestly i don't think that big moustaches and cowboy hats can beat Curtis on the stage...but i reconize the big personality of Cave...he was a leader for sure

Dazzling Killman wrote:

Jujyfruits wrote:The Birthday Party for miles. Joy Division was boring as fuck. TBP was a lot more intense than JD and, judging for what I've seen, their shows were way more exciting.

And anyway JD never had a bass player with a see-through shirt, big moustache and cowboy hat. Just that would beat almost every band.

Honestly i don't think that big moustaches and cowboy hats can beat Curtis on the stage...but i reconize the big personality of Cave...he was a leader for sure

Joy Division - every song sounds the same. don't get me wrong they're a nice guys i lke'em just fine

TBP - fucking great band, great musicians and a mile stone in the history of alternative music. great songwriting and everything. tbp can beat every otherband, except some exceptions.

Piasek wrote:and this is the reason to vote for tbp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgsJcZro7Yk

Not my fav song of them...but nice clip!
Nick was on fire!!

Piasek wrote:

Dazzling Killman wrote:

Jujyfruits wrote:The Birthday Party for miles. Joy Division was boring as fuck. TBP was a lot more intense than JD and, judging for what I've seen, their shows were way more exciting.

And anyway JD never had a bass player with a see-through shirt, big moustache and cowboy hat. Just that would beat almost every band.

Honestly i don't think that big moustaches and cowboy hats can beat Curtis on the stage...but i reconize the big personality of Cave...he was a leader for sure

Joy Division - every song sounds the same. don't get me wrong they're a nice guy i lke'em just fine

TBP - fucking great band, great musicians and a mile stone in the history of alternative music. great songwriting and everything. tbp can beat every band, except some exceptions.

Ok let me see...for you songs like Atrocity Exhibition, A Means to the End, Excersize One, She's Lost Control, Shadowplay, Candidate, Sound of Music or Somethiing Musk Break sounds the same???? beh for me not...

Piasek wrote:The Birthday Party - every song sounds the same. don't get me wrong they're a nice guys i lke'em just fine

FYP

This is a tough one, surprisingly. I was ready to go with the Birthday Party before thinking it over. And now . . .

Joy Division was a semi-decent band that flirted with synth filled crap toward the end of its life.

The Birthday Party easily swallowed any band then (indeed, most bands now); a monstrosity beckoned to life on a former penal colony.

Easy choice, right? Except I find myself listening to Joy Division more (or at least the first album) when compared to the Birthday Party.

Hmmm . . .



I think I'm gonna have to vote for Prince on this one.

Piasek wrote:

Ranxerox wrote:Joy Division is essential.

Can't believe they are winning this poll. Cannot.

BP

fugazi > tjl, wipers > stooges and now joy division > tbp.

Did the Wipers prevail over the Stooges? Now that is truly beyond my ken.

In comparison, JD over tBP seems natural.

JD is clearly the more influential band, the band with a more broadly enjoyed palette, and a band with plenty of balls and breadth.

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242sumner wrote:

hench wrote:joy division by a mile.

I have to ask, do you like any music that has balls because your taste in music is very faggy?

Homosexuals have balls.

Also, some guys listen to "bands with balls" exclusively because they feel a little insecure about their own masculinity.
Its the way they found to compensate for that

Oh yeah, the Smiths attracted a bunch that were totally confident in their masculinity.

also, some guys listen to rock music while other guys are a bunch of pussies. worried about what people think of them, and whether that androgynous girl digs him.

not for me. i like my music like i like my me: loud, angry, and drunk.

i wanna feel alive not be put to sleep. keep your fucking joy division, and enjoy "the idiot" one last time for me.

Of course I wasn't there at the time. I couldn't see them live. I have realised greatness of the Birthday Party only recently thru video clips and live recordings that were issued late in the 1990s.

BP studio records are ok, I like 'em just fine.

JD LPs and singles are excellent or at least very good.

I'd pick Ian Curtis' desperation rather than Nick Cave's madness. The latter is still alive, that's true.

I even listen to couple of early New Order albums and singles more than anything from Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.

The only thing that works better for BP is that they had influence on some excellent American bands: Scratch Acid/the Jesus Lizard, early Laughing Hyenas, Killdozer...



- Joy Division -

Really... yeah, JD sound always the same. Of course the songs are different, but it's always the same mood and Curtis' songwriting always seems to me like is moving in the same very narrow range. It's differente with TBP. Compare songs like "Jennifer's Veil", "Release the bats", "King Ink" and "Happy Birthday" and you have some pretty different stuff right there. I don't know if sounding always the same is that bad, I love The Fall and half the time they're recording the same song over and over but that's one great song, JD's only song puts me to sleep.

JD is booooring. TBP is pure excitement.