Justin from Queens wrote: Forget what my hate says about them, it doesn't say good things about me.

Exactly.

But I can certainly appreciate the joy you could take from writing this stuff.
If you'd like, I could start posting obit's of imaginary right winger and you could get your prose off there.

Rick Reuben wrote:

Steve V. wrote:the possible inside job that was 9/11

Well, obviously, if honeyisfunny was able to make an on-topic contribution to the thread, rather than some freaky offer to give me a blow job, I wouldn't have to remind him of his timid skepticism about 9/11. Things were on topic just fine until he started bizarrely playing to the crowd.

honeyisfunny's first completely off-topic ass-kissing post to the thread, in which he extends his endless vendetta against Rick Reuben, the person who taught him everything he knows about 9/11 wrote:I have an offer for everyone, if you all chip in a few dollars each I can buy a plane ticket to Chicago.
Once I get there I am offering to suck off Rick Reuben.

I will take one for the team.

The constant hair-splitting and nit-picking of people's terminologies is consistent with someone who has been starved of sexual activity of any kind for some time.

I therefore believe that rectifiying this will lead to a more relaxed Ricky and therefore a more harmonius PRF.

Yeah, that has a lot to do with Tim Russert. What a weirdo.

Reubenator, I didn't mention you by the name as the guilty party that went from Russert to rabble rousing.

By the way, I hope you get your suckoff.

My comment was serious. No rabble rousing.
If there's one thing I can't stand on forums like this it's the poor form of people who jump into discussions about the recently deceased as though some there is some internet rulebook that allows anyone to say anything at any time and it's valid. Sometimes things like common decency and manners can come into play.
I read this thread because I genuinely had no idea who the person was (not living in the USA, fair point). Within one page it had descended into 'good riddance' shit which really should be saved for special occasions, as tmidgett pointed out, when someone dies who really deserves it. And even when George Bush Snr dies someone somewhere is going to be upset so no points get scored - you don't like someone, they died: you "win".
And then, regular as clockwork, as other threads he's contributed to sink without trace, in comes Chuckles Reuben pulling a thread about someone dying onto topics that suit him more.
So excuse me for saying I'd suck him off if it shut him up, but I would.

Rick Reuben wrote:

Mark Lansing wrote:I can think of a lot of people who deserved the fate of dying at 58 far more than he did.

So you agree that it is not in bad taste to wish for certain people to die. Everyone's got their list of 'who needs to die', just like everyone's got their list of deaths they wouldn't mourn.

Let's just say that right now, Rick, you're on the latter list and gunning for a place on the former.

Tom wrote:

Mark Lansing wrote:I never got the impression he was the seed of evil like a lot of right-wing folks in the media. I wasn't a fan, but I thought he came off like a decent, reasonably intelligent guy.

Of course you didn't. What sane person would?

Actually, a lot of people in the media come off that way to me. Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter, 80% of the folks on Fox News ... they seem like they'd be perfectly happy to become brownshirts, while Russert appeared to have some small thread of decency and compassion. I'm not saying he was a saint, but I doubt he was The Evil One.

Rick Reuben wrote:

NerblyBear wrote: it's plain bad form. Nor does it accomplish anything meaningful.

If it is meaningful to deliver a glowing eulogy for the deceased, then it is meaningful to offer the contrarian view. Either both are meaningful, or both are meaningless. Either both are off-limits, or both are not.

It is meaningful to “deliver a glowing eulogy” to those who care to pay their last respects to someone. You, sir, don’t deserve first respects. Period

I don’t visit EA very often and I wasn’t sure why since I have been greeted with a great deal of generosity from the kind EA community. Then I see this shit today and I remember why. Stay under the bridge, troll.

And don’t bother to tempt me into an internet argument over this; I won’t bite. You have already won the award for ignorant jackass of the year, the trophy is in the mail. Show it to someone who cares.

Tony

RIP Tim Russert

Rick Reuben wrote:

honeyisfunny wrote:Within one page it had descended into 'good riddance' shit

When did I make my first post to the thread? It wasn't on the first page. It wasn't on the second page, either.

No, it wasn't. That's why I typed:

honeyisfunny wrote:Within one page it had descended into 'good riddance' shit which really should be saved for special occasions....

And then, regular as clockwork, as other threads he's contributed to sink without trace, in comes Chuckles Reuben pulling a thread about someone dying onto topics that suit him more.

I meant you basically scour this forum looking for opportunities to 'get on one' and, if possible, divert the thread to topics you can get on your high horse about. In most cases that's shitty, in this case it's the very definition of 'poor form'.

Let's start a club where people pledge to be willingly IP blocked from EA forums if they are ever dumb enough to post anything containing a quote from this racist Tom character.

Our symbol will be a dick in the pyramid and we'll genetically alter soy products so that they will make men produce oestrogen and become more passive and feminine. Next stop, drawing smiley faces on Ball Lightning and eradicating all instances of the world "mercury" from the diary of Sir Isaac Newton. At our meetings we will eat kosher sandwiches called Richard Hoagielands.

Protocols of the Elder of Just Try It On, Bucko, Just You Try It On

Justin from Queens wrote:You know, come to think about it, I've had far less of my share of dealing with death than most my age. So I've been lucky in that regard and it's probably less than empathetic to glory in anyone else's demise. Forget what my hate says about them, it doesn't say good things about me.

Right, you're right about that last part.

It's easy to get carried away by distaste for something or someone. It's also kind of pointless pretty much all the time. And often it is actually terrible for the person doing the hating.

Tim, I appreciate your not calling me a douchebag.

Well, I know firsthand you're not a douchebag.

There is a certain level of generosity that befits civilization.

Giving someone's memory some space in death is a basic courtesy that rises to that level of generosity.

I do think a certain class of people disgrace themselves and the species so markedly in life that they don't deserve that courtesy.

In general, it's nice to grant it to them anyway, seeing as how they are fucking dead. But you know, I understand not doing it, if you're prone to hating people, even once they are dead. A certain class of people might kinda sorta deserve it.

But goddamn, Tim Russert wasn't even close to being one of them.

And I wasn't particularly a fan of his work, for whatever very very little that is worth.

Rick Reuben wrote:What is dangerous to the internet is an atmosphere where people have to look over their shoulders to see who might be ready to object to their honest opinions. We don't need that. Honest, unlimited opinion is what lubricates the gears of this internet thing. It's not opinion by committee, as much as some of you fans of groupthink might wish it to be.

What is dangerous to the internet--this corner in particular--is also the tendency of, say, you to just spew whatever bullshit over whatever thread you happen to feel like spewing.

It's destructive and selfish. The fact that you are being honest means nothing, given the selfishness inherent in hijacking an otherwise totally reasonable discussion.

I mean, you're bringing up 9/11 and the credit crunch in a thread about a dead newscaster, you know? You've got plenty of places, through the good graces of EA, to jabber on about that stuff until your fingers bleed. The rest of us should be able to avoid it if we want.

You push people off this site. I know b/c it's happened to me. Maybe you enjoy that kind of 'power,' such as it is. In which case--congratulations on your achievement.

when i come home to my beloved wireless & open up the ole message board & see a thread i left in the morning with some hope for reasonable discussion & think "my, how you have grown, thread, that couldn't have happened in a natural, organic way" & i fear for the worst.

sorry, i'm drunk & disappointed.

there could have been some sober, reasonable, interesting debate, about an interesting guy caught up in an often cursed but interesting time, but instead we get rhetorical devolution, & not the kind that woulda warmed mark mothersbaugh's heart.

i will repeat. i am not happy that anyone dies. no one's got it coming.

i'd have rather heard about details in the life of this admittedly interesting guy. the ambiguous details that tell you alot. they were eulogizing him on air america the night of his death & talking about his close relationship with his son & how he was always so excited to take him along to the (bush) white house when there was some kind of event where old baseball stars were assembled as guests. that stuck out for me, told me alot. how somebody can be a powerful guy who is still a boy, & a decent one at that, at heart, & whose love of those kind of things & sharing them with his son could probably kinda over-ride the grown man in him who was complicit in alot of things that i have major issues with, things that i can not simply dismiss.

here's to more motherfucking gray in these type of threads! i'm sick to death of this boring ass black & white shit.