Did it for the first time at a session today and totally loved it. Great stereo image. Also nice to get a little further away from those loud hi hats everyone is always complaining about. I have always done a spaced pair, but I think I will get used to this for a while.
Who like it?
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2Either XY or ORTF over here.
Always hated spaced pair.
Always hated spaced pair.
"That man is a head taller than me.
...That may change."
...That may change."
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3pretty much always XY.
I'm recording a lot in environments that are not conductive to a spaced pair.
like shitty rehearsal rooms.
XY seems to work better more often.
I'm recording a lot in environments that are not conductive to a spaced pair.
like shitty rehearsal rooms.
XY seems to work better more often.
I hate salesmen.
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4ORTF is even better IMO, it gives you a wider stereo image.
It is easy to set up and very useful in small space with low ceiling (like basement) that's why i use it in most session.
As far as i'm concerned, spaced pair aren't so easy to place to create a good stereo image (i always strugling to center the kick drum with it), and need a large room with quite hight ceiling to work well.
It is easy to set up and very useful in small space with low ceiling (like basement) that's why i use it in most session.
As far as i'm concerned, spaced pair aren't so easy to place to create a good stereo image (i always strugling to center the kick drum with it), and need a large room with quite hight ceiling to work well.
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5XY above and a mono LDC out front about 4' at tom level
You almost don't even need anything else
I also like a far mono overhead if I am close micing everything else.
You almost don't even need anything else
I also like a far mono overhead if I am close micing everything else.
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6Wait, jog my acronym brain. What does ORTF stand for?
Japmn I have been using a LDC about ten feet away from the kit right around toms and it gives everything character. Right now XY I use Shure Ksm141's and room mic seems less specific. They all work similar (the LDC's) I use my Blue Babybottle for that, just cause it is kind of expensive and I have so few other uses for it. I put the Audio Technicas and the Akgs (LDC) on guitars/bass/drums meanwhile.
Other freaky thing. I've got one of the guitar rigs (a really loud vintage Ampeg head) with an AT 4033 and a Heil PR30 both about eight or nine inches away, that's really far for me. The PR30 at that distance is a little thin, but very clear. The AT is just as meaty as it is closer in.
Japmn I have been using a LDC about ten feet away from the kit right around toms and it gives everything character. Right now XY I use Shure Ksm141's and room mic seems less specific. They all work similar (the LDC's) I use my Blue Babybottle for that, just cause it is kind of expensive and I have so few other uses for it. I put the Audio Technicas and the Akgs (LDC) on guitars/bass/drums meanwhile.
Other freaky thing. I've got one of the guitar rigs (a really loud vintage Ampeg head) with an AT 4033 and a Heil PR30 both about eight or nine inches away, that's really far for me. The PR30 at that distance is a little thin, but very clear. The AT is just as meaty as it is closer in.
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7losthighway wrote:Wait, jog my acronym brain. What does ORTF stand for?
Something Radio something France as I recall.
"You get a kink in your neck looking up at people or down at people. But when you look straight across, there's no kinks."
--Mike Watt
--Mike Watt
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8japmn wrote:XY above and a mono LDC out front about 4' at tom level
You almost don't even need anything else
I also like a far mono overhead if I am close micing everything else.
This. I also often put an XY pair about chest height out in front of the kit. So nice.
"You get a kink in your neck looking up at people or down at people. But when you look straight across, there's no kinks."
--Mike Watt
--Mike Watt
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9endofanera wrote:losthighway wrote:Wait, jog my acronym brain. What does ORTF stand for?
Something Radio something France as I recall.
I think it is Organization of Radio and Television of France but in French.
It is like the FCC I think.