sparky wrote:He looks a little like Michael Caine in a big beard in that photo.

I see what you mean....

Great pic, thanks for posting!

Incidentally: one of Serbia's main papers, Politika, said he was wearing a long black beard!

What to make of this?

http://www.politika.co.yu/

Mazec wrote:

sparky wrote:He looks a little like Michael Caine in a big beard in that photo.

I see what you mean....

Great pic, thanks for posting!

Or Santa off duty.

Alternating beards? Plain bizarre!

Someone with the skillz should mock up a "IM IN YR CPITAL FEELIN YR CRYSTALZ" over that photo.

Ifan Saer wrote:They sold him in the best possible moment, after thirteen years of successful haggling. Now let's shove Serbia into the EU, they're collectively innocent, wheeee!!!!

word.

But was it an aluminium beard?

sparky wrote:Alternating beards? Plain bizarre!

Someone with the skillz should mock up a "IM IN YR CPITAL FEELIN YR CRYSTALZ" over that photo.

I'd see a band with that name. If they could fit it on the marquee.

sparky wrote:I am ambivalent over this idea that a country must hand over all its political criminals before being allowed into "our club". Part of me likes this idea that murderous leaders will see that they can be held accountable; and part of me thinks that it is lousy that a whole country can suffer for the sake of one now impotent man.

I think the idea is good. In practice, however, it is : "You fuckers are few and poor. You will do whatever we say.". The EU is doing a lousy job concealing their true intentions in this matter.

I firmly believe every criminal from any country should be tried and imprisoned for their crimes. That's not what the Hague Tribunal is doing.

Mazec wrote:Still, you don't hear too much about Croatian and Bosnian war criminals, now, do you?

You do in Croatia. You can buy posters, coffee mugs, t-shirts...


He really does look like Michael Caine in that photo.

MonsterDad wrote:

Mazec wrote:Still, you don't hear too much about Croatian and Bosnian war criminals, now, do you?

You do in Croatia. You can buy posters, coffee mugs, t-shirts...

Oh really? Interesting. Can you recommend me any online shops? I'd be curious.

I had no idea there was that kind of national hero kitch trade with war criminals in Croatia.
I've seen some of it in Serbia, with these ultra-crass "Serb Heroes" T-shirts depicting Milosevic and Karadzic, but I had no idea a similar phenomenon existed in Croatia.

So, if I may ask, who are some of the more popular ones in Croatia?

Mazec wrote:

MonsterDad wrote:

Mazec wrote:Still, you don't hear too much about Croatian and Bosnian war criminals, now, do you?

You do in Croatia. You can buy posters, coffee mugs, t-shirts...

Oh really? Interesting. Can you recommend me any online shops? I'd be curious.

I had no idea there was that kind of national hero kitch trade with war criminals in Croatia.
I've seen some of it in Serbia, with these ultra-crass "Serb Heroes" T-shirts depicting Milosevic and Karadzic, but I had no idea a similar phenomenon existed in Croatia.

So, if I may ask, who are some of the more popular ones in Croatia?

I was in Croatia last year and right beside the house we stayed in was this giant patriotic billboard of a general looking off to the distance with a Croatian flag background. Being the inquisitive sort that I am I asked everybody who this Ante Gotovina was. I got a 100% 'He's a hero' response from the people. He's in the Hague as far as I know. You can make up your own mind here.

But yeah Croatia has it's fair share of war-crimes-loving folks. To be honest it's not that difficult for me to understand the reasons behind this. I may not agree, because I have objectivity on my side, but I do understand.

Mazec wrote:Oh really? Interesting. Can you recommend me any online shops? I'd be curious.

I'm sorry, I don't know of any, but I'm sure there are a zillion.

Mazec wrote:So, if I may ask, who are some of the more popular ones in Croatia?

Norac was pretty popular, but that fad is over.
Ante Gotovina has been HUGE for years now. Which I think is not strange. He was crucial in freeing a big part of Croatian territory which was under occupation for years. A bunch of people's lives were directly affected by this.

Unfortunately, a lot of the people who hang up pictures of generals on their windows don't do it only because they're grateful the Serbian army isn't threatening them anymore, but also cause they think it's quite alright to smoke every goddamn Serb out of his hole and send him back where he came from. This sucks very bad.

We should so make love and not war, I tell you.


I bet you can get a shirt with this :