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tocharian wrote:
fat_frog_138 wrote:In the sense commonly used in conversations such as this one, race is a social construct. Each person is assigned a race arbitrarily based on groups of observable physical characteristics as well as behaviors. In this sense Mexican is absolutely a race. Whether these racial distinctions have any merit is another matter.

Very lame, Derrida.

If you're denied service at Denny's or beaten up by the police or deported because of a "social construct", then yeah, it matters.

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL P.C. vol 4

this thing, she is the awesome

The MayorofRockNRoll_Archive

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Lonesome Bulldog wrote:
tocharian wrote:
fat_frog_138 wrote:In the sense commonly used in conversations such as this one, race is a social construct. Each person is assigned a race arbitrarily based on groups of observable physical characteristics as well as behaviors. In this sense Mexican is absolutely a race. Whether these racial distinctions have any merit is another matter.

Very lame, Derrida.

If you're denied service at Denny's or beaten up by the police or deported because of a "social construct", then yeah, it matters.

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL P.C. vol 4

I actually don't think being denied service at Denny's is that bad a thing.

You call me a hater like that's a bad thing

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The MayorofRockNRoll wrote:
Lonesome Bulldog wrote:
tocharian wrote:
fat_frog_138 wrote:In the sense commonly used in conversations such as this one, race is a social construct. Each person is assigned a race arbitrarily based on groups of observable physical characteristics as well as behaviors. In this sense Mexican is absolutely a race. Whether these racial distinctions have any merit is another matter.

Very lame, Derrida.

If you're denied service at Denny's or beaten up by the police or deported because of a "social construct", then yeah, it matters.

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL P.C. vol 4

I actually don't think being denied service at Denny's is that bad a thing.

Black people are the ones Denny's won't serve. I see all kinds of Mexicans in there. Working there, eating there, sleeping there, everything.

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NerblyBear wrote:
Andrew. wrote:
Mandroid2.0 wrote:
kenoki wrote:
longdivi wrote:
Mandroid2.0 wrote:God, do I fucking HATE Chinese people...Between shark finning and whaling and drift netting, I'd be perfectly happy to kill off most of China and Japan. Fuckers.

Mandroid2.0 wrote:No, I really do hate Japanese and Chinese culture and environmental policy that much. Ask Ben about how often I bitch about this. I hate people in general but I don't think I've ever had a good experience with representatives of those cultures in particular

oh shit

The "killing" part was hyperbolic in the context of the original thread wherein I was talking about stuff that really viscerally pissed me off, but, yeah. I don't like Chinese or Japanese culture and I do not get along with Chinese or Japanese people as a general rule. That's fine. I don't do anything to harm them or discriminate against them. We just don't get along for the most part.

You know what really pisses me off? Racism is only considered racism if the people look different than you do. Can I not fairly detest where someone comes from if they happen to look non-white? The British hate the French and vice versa and that's totally acceptable but I can't dislike the Chinese because they aren't Caucasian looking? Can you just not agree with/like people from a certain country for whatever reason and have it be okay anymore?

I went back and re-read some parts of this thread and stumbled upon this.

This is sort of confusing. I was all about agreeing w/ Marsupialized's defense of Mandroid before, but now I'm not so sure what to think.

What do you guys think about it? Seems like this deserved more discussion than the groggy, off-hand comment did.

Agreed. This was a far more loaded post than the one being repeated- like
the knife turning back and forth after stabbing. Pretty embarrassing shit.
Are we now feeling "enlightened" to the point where we feel that we're insulated from all accountability? I think we all need to realize that racism thrives on this type of acceptance of the status quo, and that(contrary to Marsupialized's perspective) one inflammatory comment is an open door to a thousand.

There's more cognitive dissonance on this thread than on all the threads
in the history of this forum.

Marsupialized_Archive

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No racism thrives when people keep perpetuating it with overreaction and silliness, putting every person they see into a category. Constantly hawking over other people's every word hoping to find a nugget you can hold up to the world to prove just what a swell, 'evolved' creature you are is a horseshit, asshole move.
'Look everyone! Look what they said! How terrible to say such a thing about those poor Mexican people. I would NEVER say anything like this'

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tocharian wrote:
fat_frog_138 wrote:In the sense commonly used in conversations such as this one, race is a social construct. Each person is assigned a race arbitrarily based on groups of observable physical characteristics as well as behaviors. In this sense Mexican is absolutely a race. Whether these racial distinctions have any merit is another matter.

Very lame, Derrida.

If you're denied service at Denny's or beaten up by the police or deported because of a "social construct", then yeah, it matters.

I never said it didn't matter. I question its merit because it causes more harm than good. The social construct of race is used to deny certain people or groups of people things like service at Denny's as well as basic civil and human rights. On the other hand it can foster a sense of solidarity and support and smaller scale altruism among members of the same "race." All told I feel the concept is more conducive to evil.

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