I'm a fan. Even the not-as-good to mediocre shoegaze I've heard has been in some way interesting to listen to. I'm sure I by far haven't heard the worst stuff though.

speaking of which, has anyone (who's interested) heard the new Verve record? What's it called? Forth?

DazeyDiver wrote:speaking of which, has anyone (who's interested) heard the new Verve record? What's it called? Forth?

I've heard the whole thing. I love the Verve, especially the guitar heavy early stuff. Four is shit. Nothing on it is salvageable. It's terrible.

John George Peppers wrote:

DazeyDiver wrote:speaking of which, has anyone (who's interested) heard the new Verve record? What's it called? Forth?

I've heard the whole thing. I love the Verve, especially the guitar heavy early stuff. Four is shit. Nothing on it is salvageable. It's terrible.

Heard the single and wooooooo man was it CRAP

Marsupialized wrote:

John George Peppers wrote:

DazeyDiver wrote:speaking of which, has anyone (who's interested) heard the new Verve record? What's it called? Forth?

I've heard the whole thing. I love the Verve, especially the guitar heavy early stuff. Four is shit. Nothing on it is salvageable. It's terrible.

Heard the single and wooooooo man was it CRAP

As a dude who digs the Verve and didn't even know there was a single out until reading this thread, then went to check it out...

Jesus assfucking Christ.

shit. was looking forward to hearing it.


well thanks for saving me a couple minutes.

boring as shit now and pretty much "over," but will always be the genre closest to my heart in some kneejerk, overriding-the-brain nostalgia way. those amazing moments in a really good classic/standard shoegaze song where it sears your brain--i'll always be grateful for those. pretty much my archetypal music memory. it's like the closest thing to what i wanted to hear in my head as a fetus, ie sans cultural baggage. the first time i heard mbv it was like a sigh of relief, a purely physical "a-HA!" one of my friends said loveless sounds like god's washing machine. i wonder if people will tease me now...

This is more folky/psych, but anybody hear the new Grouper (aka Liz Harris) record Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill?

I love it!

I listened to Nowhere (Ride) the other day and aside from some production issues I thought it still holds up. MBV isn't anything is great and Loveless too.
I like the wall of sound thing but want more showmanship at live shows.

MBV, AR Kane, Loop, Seefeel are the only ones that matter to me - with MBV a massive fave.

anyway, Shoegaze (uch-y-fi) was predated by Dreampop which i think has some merit as a category coz at least it is kind of descriptive sound-wise.

so dunno really, feel all vague and floaty on this one........