UK General Election 2015 In 2015 I will be voting for:
171sleepkid wrote: As has been said, Labour, by being a vague purposeless pandering heap of dung, has helped the Tory vote. Hmmm. I know what you mean, but I think this is looking too much at the parties and not enough at the electorate. Tories win an absolute majority, UKIP get 12% of the vote nationwide - are you saying that, Labour-SNP shift aside, the Labour party made those people that right-leaning? I'm a Labour supporter, just to be clear, but I think the main problem with the Labour party in this election was their attempts to reach a right-leaning electorate, with their immigration "policy" (I use the term loosely) and so on. I would desperately love the Labour party to have moved to the left, to have fought harder against austerity, to have pushed a much more positive message on immigration and so on, but I think the party thought (rightly or wrongly) this would marginalise them, pushing them into the kind of territory the Green Party finds itself in, more "ethical", more ideologically sound, but unelectable. So they went after those centre/right-leaning people. And still lost. I'm not saying that was the right thing to do, but I don't know whose votes, other than some that went to the Greens, they would have gained by placing themselves more to the left at the start of the campaign. My guess is that Scotland was already lost to Labour after the referendum campaign, and that even a severe move to the left would have done little to remedy that situation, whilst losing people from the centre.Our elections are effectively decided by middle-class people worrying they might be worse off financially. The thing I will never understand is the people in the middle. The undecideds. The last minute mind-changers. I can understand people being torn between Labour and Green, or (pre-referendum) Labour and SNP, or between Tory and UKIP, but who the fuck would be torn between Tory and Labour? For all the short comings of the campaign and the policies, I thought the ideological lines ended up being quite clearly drawn. Who isn't sure how important the NHS or the welfare state is to them?
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