It seems to me, if you're going to pan the drums in any kind of 'realistic' fashion, doing roughy from the drummer's point of view makes sense. There's almost no context where you would be listening to drums from an audience perspective that will be in stereo, other than ambience.

Anthony Flack wrote:Tommy wrote:Anthony Flack wrote:Also mentions panning from the drummer's perspective in case anybody was in doubt that this is the true and correct way.I still do not understand this practice. There is only one person who hears music this way. The drummer.You gonna play air drums, you need 'em panned drummerside. Nobody wants to feel like they are standing in front of drums. You want to feel like you ARE the drummer, the king of musicians.Folks who have air drummed at shows would like a quick word.

Full disclosure, I always keep all the close mics panned fairly close to centre myself, as I am not a fan of having the toms galloping brazenly across the stereo field anyway. So as far as that goes it probably is more like audience perception since the drums aren't panned wide.But to the extent that it is done, I still feel they should be panned drummerwise.

numberthirty wrote:Anthony Flack wrote:Tommy wrote:Anthony Flack wrote:Also mentions panning from the drummer's perspective in case anybody was in doubt that this is the true and correct way.I still do not understand this practice. There is only one person who hears music this way. The drummer.You gonna play air drums, you need 'em panned drummerside. Nobody wants to feel like they are standing in front of drums. You want to feel like you ARE the drummer, the king of musicians.Folks who have air drummed at shows would like a quick word.yeah, but i don't air guitar lefty at shows.

90% of the people listening won't be able to tell if it's audience perspective or not. But every drummer will. Might as well do something for the people that will actually care

Anthony Flack wrote: toms galloping brazenly across the stereo field i do love this. it's stupid and hokey, but I always love it.

motorbike guy wrote:Anthony Flack wrote: toms galloping brazenly across the stereo field i do love this. it's stupid and hokey, but I always love it.+1

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Tommy wrote:Should we go ahead and mix it like it sounds with ear plugs in too?That's a curious comment. If we mixed it like we heard it live, it would be mostly midrange and low treble. I've learned that the microphone more or less hears what I hear when I have earplugs in. So... yes, we should go ahead and mix it like we have earplugs in, because otherwise it would sound like trebly garbage.About panning - I pan from the band's perspective because I like it that way. As an audience member, I can close my eyes and sort of pretend I'm in the band. As I see it, if anyone has an issue with that, then they can mix it themselves. It would save me the five-quarts-in-a-gallon-bucket hassle of doing the mixing myself.