I was wondering if you in the field could fill me in on the general reputation of schools.

Right now I'm leaning towards School of Audio Engineering in New York. I was also looking at Columbia, but the closer to Philadelphia the better. I think I'd also like SAE because it's nowhere near the size of Columbia.

I'm at the tender age of 17, I really have no idea what the general feeling is towards these or any other schools (Except for Full Sail.. thank you). I understand completely that my work and attitude will be a larger factor in possible intern/job placement, but this is a concern of mine since I will be applying to school fairly soon.

Oh and thanks for all your personal advice/experiences given to others in different threads, I've read and admired all of your wisdom!

skatingbasser,
Ive posted about this before, mainly here:

http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewto ... university

In my opinion, Indiana University's Audio program is top notch. You can get a Bachelor's Degree in classical or multitrack recording, and rather than just learning how gear works, or how to read SMPTE, you learn how to problem solve, how to work with musicians, and you get over 180 hours of hands-on recording experience each semester. The new director, Konrad Strauss, has done amazing things for the program in the past 3 years. He also has tons of engineering experience under his belt and is a very good teacher. The IU audio department also helped land me an internship right here at EA. Anyhow, check it out for yourself:
http://www.music.indiana.edu/department/audio/

this may be of some current relevance:

i attended the School of Audio Engineering in Sydney, Australia in 1996 for my Diploma of Audio Engineering. what seemed lacking most was the lack of available studio time. you basically got about 8 hours a week, and that was if you were quick enough to the paper schedule they hoisted once a week, and was filled within seconds.

the whole process left me with resolve to never be involved in the recording industry. not because of the lack of facilities; i took most thorough advantage of what was available, which for Australia in the mid 90's was top notch. rather, it was the sickening greed and mendacity of SAE's owner, Tom Misner. basically a wanton capitalist, this is the kinda guy who would park his $250,000 custom porsche out the front every day, illegally, in one of the busiest parts of town, and whatever fines had accrued by the end of the day would be paid off an immense list. this fucker had the gall to assert this was some form of socialism; that he was keeping the council's pocket's lined so he could be a rich arrogant brat day after day. needless to say, i felt rather stupid for having worked to earn the ludicrous fee for the course so it could be squandered on some arsehole's porsche. he went on to buy out sony studios 301 in sydney, and has "produced" a bunch of manufactured pop acts.

so my recommendation is, stay the fuck away from SAE. i have absolutely no idea what college is like in the states. i know someone there right now, so i'll get the lowdown sooner or later. JUST DON'T BE GIVING MISNER YOUR MONEY!!!!

that felt goooooooooooooood.

fuck, I'm attending this same course in SAE Madrid... But here I have all the studio time I want, at least. That pig Misner is not getting all my money for free.

I'm from Melbourne, Australia and I remember, while I was attending RMIT, being at a gig I was mixing with some 2nd Year SAE students. I was telling them about RMIT’s massive Sound and Acoustics module and was asking them if they did anything similar. They told me they had touched on Acoustics and a bit of mic placement. At that point I pulled out of my bag my assignment, which was 50 pages of logarithms and diagrams. They freaked out!!!

Fuck SAE, it's for bored rich kids - go to the goverment TAFE's and Uni's.

paulisdead wrote:I'm from Melbourne, Australia and I remember, while I was attending RMIT, being at a gig I was mixing with some 2nd Year SAE students. I was telling them about RMIT’s massive Sound and Acoustics module and was asking them if they did anything similar. They told me they had touched on Acoustics and a bit of mic placement. At that point I pulled out of my bag my assignment, which was 50 pages of logarithms and diagrams. They freaked out!!!

Fuck SAE, it's for bored rich kids - go to the goverment TAFE's and Uni's.

Haha, last week while doing simple resistance calculations some Led Zeppelin drinking game frat boy playing flashgames on his laptop said, "I didn't sign up for this math shit."

The teacher replied, "Actullay dude, you fucking did. The term 'Engineering' is right in the fucking title of the course."

There are a few kids who fit this "bored rich kid" title. But most there have a desire to learn and an understanding that you get out what you put in.

skatingbasser wrote:
Led Zeppelin drinking game frat boy

how do you play a led zeppelin drinking game? sounds fun.

skatingbasser wrote:

paulisdead wrote:I'm from Melbourne, Australia and I remember, while I was attending RMIT, being at a gig I was mixing with some 2nd Year SAE students. I was telling them about RMIT’s massive Sound and Acoustics module and was asking them if they did anything similar. They told me they had touched on Acoustics and a bit of mic placement. At that point I pulled out of my bag my assignment, which was 50 pages of logarithms and diagrams. They freaked out!!!

Fuck SAE, it's for bored rich kids - go to the goverment TAFE's and Uni's.

Haha, last week while doing simple resistance calculations some Led Zeppelin drinking game frat boy playing flashgames on his laptop said, "I didn't sign up for this math shit."

The teacher replied, "Actullay dude, you fucking did. The term 'Engineering' is right in the fucking title of the course."

There are a few kids who fit this "bored rich kid" title. But most there have a desire to learn and an understanding that you get out what you put in.

Where does this mean you wound up then? SAE NY?