The albums that you feel are unfairly panned or overlooked in the discography. Maybe it's a 'sell out' release, or a step too far into the unknown, or a band line-up that many just don't fancy. Whatever, speak up for it.

I know it came after the first three, and those are seen as what matters, but I'll stand up for Obituary's World Demise. It wasn't a breakthrough record on release, turning off a lot of OG fans while not garnering much of a new crowd, but I always dug it and reckon it's aged well too.

Big riffs, great rhythm section, and the best voice in death metal. Winner winner chicken dinner.

I tend to like crossover albums that follow a band’s “best” album a lot, and then hate the albums that came next.

Justice, South of Heaven, Necroticism, Fear of a Black Planet, Sister, all fantastic. What followed were abominations for the most part. But those weird leaps of faith, they are always my favourites on some level at least, especially perhaps when paired with the albums the precede them

seby wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 3:48 pmJustice

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_( ... ber_album)

Yeah that one is my favorite as well.

I find myself defending The Ideal Copy and A Bell is a Cup.. somewhat regularly. Wire seem to get flack for making '80s records that are no more dated than, say, New Order or The Cure, but they have some catchy tunes and arty/experimental stuff rivaling the '70s output. The records that followed those.. yeah, those kind of suck.

It is not a bastard a child album, but considering it came after what would be their most popular and accessible album ever. 0+2=1 kind of fits. The obsessed probably have always liked it. Casual fans, not likely. Wrong was damn a near perfect punk record. 0+2= 1 was a diversion. Probably by design.

U2's Pop is like the bastard child of the U2 catalog - even the band admitted it 'wasn't finished'. The public didn't seem to like this record much, but there are some excellent songs on there - Staring at the Sun, Last Night on Earth, Please, Do You Feel Loved, etc. I'd much rather hear them experiment and do something like this (or Zooropa) again than what they're churning out now.

penningtron wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:49 pm I find myself defending The Ideal Copy and A Bell is a Cup.. somewhat regularly. Wire seem to get flack for making '80s records that are no more dated than, say, New Order or The Cure, but they have some catchy tunes and arty/experimental stuff rivaling the '70s output. The records that followed those.. yeah, those kind of suck.

Totally. Everyone used to tell me "the 1st three Wire albums are all you need." Then one day like 15 years ago I was in Amoeba in SF and someone had recently dumped all of their later Wire records. I bought like a dozen of them (some were Newman solo, Gilbert projects, He Said I think). I still have 'em. Severely underrated records, all of em.

For me, The Fall's Are You Are Missing Winner immediately comes to mind.

Corrosion of Conformity's Blind is one of my favorite records ever, and it's in a blind spot between their hardcore era and the stoner era.

enframed wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:14 pm

penningtron wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:49 pm I find myself defending The Ideal Copy and A Bell is a Cup.. somewhat regularly. Wire seem to get flack for making '80s records that are no more dated than, say, New Order or The Cure, but they have some catchy tunes and arty/experimental stuff rivaling the '70s output. The records that followed those.. yeah, those kind of suck.

Totally. Everyone used to tell me "the 1st three Wire albums are all you need." Then one day like 15 years ago I was in Amoeba in SF and someone had recently dumped all of their later Wire records. I bought like a dozen of them (some were Newman solo, Gilbert projects, He Said I think). I still have 'em. Severely underrated records, all of em.

For me, The Fall's Are You Are Missing Winner immediately comes to mind.

Just yesterday I was thinking about how my first Wire album was The Ideal Copy, how unlike the first three LPs it is, and how I never read retrospectives on how it is a “classic.” It’s a great record.

Pixies - Trompe le Monde

Almost everyone I know hates this record. I think its their best.