Some bands do it really well... Lisabö, Jerry Buscher-era Fugazi, Melvins w/ Big Business, Kylesa, Tortoise, etc...
Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
12Seeing Nomeansno play with two drummers on the Mr Happy tour was not crap. Seeing Fugazi play with two drummers was ok, but not necessary.
I was in a band with 2 drummers awhile back, and it was more hassle than it was worth. It was fine at the practice space, but setting up on small stages was ridiculous. TBH, it was ridiculous on big stages, too. It’s not like we were doing anything rhythmically adventurous.
Not crap, but a few waffles. Make it worth the sound person’s time.
I was in a band with 2 drummers awhile back, and it was more hassle than it was worth. It was fine at the practice space, but setting up on small stages was ridiculous. TBH, it was ridiculous on big stages, too. It’s not like we were doing anything rhythmically adventurous.
Not crap, but a few waffles. Make it worth the sound person’s time.
Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
13Tortoise, yes!Bernardo wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:22 pm
Tortoise (effective)
King Crimson (the double trio was not particularly effective IMO, the current thing is all versions, right)
The Fall at some point? Also, Pere Ubu in the mid-80's, can't remember how that went.
King Crimson had some tracks on the road to 1984 (pre-double trio) that featured both Belew and Bruford on percussion, if you can call that two drummers, I dunno. Belew is a competent drummer.
The Fall did this at multiple points.
Butthole Surfers did this effectively for a time.
I dunno about live but PIL had Martin Atkins and Keith Levene on percussion on The Flowers of Romance. Obviously that worked. And on This is What You Want...This is What You Get, Atkins and Lydon handled percussion. I love that record, too, it was my introduction to PIL.
Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
14Oh it thickens everything for sure.Bernardo wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 2:52 pmWell, apparently the sound of drum flams is worth all the trouble.
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(For me mostly crap BTW)
Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
15Ministry during that phase were just spectacular. Not crap for In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up aloneBernardo wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:22 pmI would argue that kind of situation (and player) is not what is being discussed here.A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 10:31 pm Most of the classic Motown tracks were recorded with two drummers, right?
Not Crap, for sure.
As for in regular band setups, like, music that was built from the ground up with a fixed two drummer line up (not hired guns, but contributing members), I don't think it was used to great effect too often.
Bands who I remember took that route:
Tortoise (effective)
Fugazi (indifferent)
Early Pavement (effective)
Nomeansno (indifferent)
Ministry touring band (effective)
The Melvins (did ok)
First Pigface album (barely a band, but effective)
King Crimson (the double trio was not particularly effective IMO, the current thing is all versions, right)
The Fall at some point? Also, Pere Ubu in the mid-80's, can't remember how that went.
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Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
16I can only think of two bands who have done this well: Tortoise and Ministry. Everyone else could be reduced to a single drummer and I'd like it just as much if not more (Pavement, King Crimson , etc.).
Can't vote.
Can't vote.
Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
17Oh, forgot that former FM Angus Jung's band Alto did it well, but was also super percussion/rhythm based since it was drums/drums/guitar.
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Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
18Oh yeah. ALTO did it real well.tallchris wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:47 am Oh, forgot that former FM Angus Jung's band Alto did it well, but was also super percussion/rhythm based since it was drums/drums/guitar.
DD/MM/YYYY did it well too. I never missed a chance to see those guys when they came to town.
Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
19Yeah, The Fall did it exceptionally well.
The way they organized was really well thought-out. Paul and Karl would discuss which songs played to their strengths as drummers and one would take the "lead" role and the other the "support." On "The Classical" it's all over the place and great, but on something like "Deer Park", they'd just lock in and hammer down. Probably the best example of this sort of thing.
The way they organized was really well thought-out. Paul and Karl would discuss which songs played to their strengths as drummers and one would take the "lead" role and the other the "support." On "The Classical" it's all over the place and great, but on something like "Deer Park", they'd just lock in and hammer down. Probably the best example of this sort of thing.
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Re: Rock band format: Two drummers
20Does Godspeed count here?
Because of the half/standup kit. But also, as “rock”.
I like what they do.
Because of the half/standup kit. But also, as “rock”.
I like what they do.