Del Rey (the Lana-less one) did this, no?

Dave N. wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:07 pm

tallchris wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:47 am Oh, forgot that former FM Angus Jung's band Alto did it well, but was also super percussion/rhythm based since it was drums/drums/guitar.

Oh yeah. ALTO did it real well.

Good one, I listened to this record A LOT when it came out.

Gary Glitter may have used the format best. Not a joke!

I do believe the best run of Fall records was with the Hanley/Burns dual-drums setup.

I saw Thee Oh Sees with two drummers and found it very underwhelming. No real polyrhythms, just a double-thud of a rhythm section.

Christopher wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm Del Rey (the Lana-less one) did this, no?

yes they did.

from what i remember it always seemed like it was going to be awesome, but it never was.

I really wanted to say crap, because there are some terrible bands who used two drummers.
Then I thought of like a million bands with two drummers that are cool.

Melvins, Pavement, Butthole Surfers, Hawkwind, the Mothers, King Gizzard, et al.

I always assumed the two drummers thing in Pavement was another aspect of the Grateful Dead cosplay.

jason_from_volo wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 12:44 pm I've chimed in a lot on my own post already, but wanted to specifically address Pavement, who, for a long time, were my favorite band.

I think that the best drumming on any of the Pavement records was on S&E, which was only Gary Young.

Gary apparently had some problems unrelated to his drumming talent that kept him from being a reliable drummer, so they added a second drummer. After that, they replaced Gary, but kept the second drummer.

I don't recall hearing any drumming from the second drummer on CR,CR; I hear some auxiliary percussion on WZ; I do hear the second drumset on BtC (on "Starlings of the Slipstream"); and I don't recall from TT. All in all, I don't see it adding much.

That being said, I love Bob N's role in Pavement. It's completely unnecessary, which is why it's so awesome. We should have a separate crap/not crap just for Bob N, and I would emphatically vote "not crap".

I think Gary Young was more versatile, in that he played to all the accents in the song as opposed to just dropping in a Can style drum groove behind Malkmus' writing.
But yeah, he was unfortunately on the Bonham vodka diet, I think.

I feel like its there on CR CR and mixed down, but maybe its bleed from pieces of multiple takes. Wowee Zowee is my fav and yeah, no second kit in my memory of that. I think creatively Malkmus was driving Brighten the Corners and Terror Twilight to the point where those jam band elements were no longer present.

I would definitely have to go with NOT CRAP for Nastanovich. However musically unnecessary, I'm with it.
Being "the second drummer" is just one of the things he was doing. Random screaming, toy keyboard noodles, tambourine, but also I get the impression he was both the enforcer and the chief financial officer for the band in the 90's.

wot wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 12:53 pm I always assumed the two drummers thing in Pavement was another aspect of the Grateful Dead cosplay.

At a point I did as well - "it's a California jam band thing". But then consider The Fall had two drummers.

Classic 90s Milwaukee noise rock band Fuckface had four drummers and a dude playing scrap metal, sometimes with a grinder. The drummers did not use any snares or cymbals. They fucking ruled.

That being said, this poll is for using TWO drummers, not four + a percussionist, so never mind me!

jason_from_volo wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 8:07 pm

DrAwkward wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:32 pm Classic 90s Milwaukee noise rock band Fuckface

Great band name.

Did they have trouble getting gigs?

Nope! The "ex-Die Kreuzen" pedigree certainly helped.

First things I thought of was Ministry on the Mind… tour, Murder Inc, Hex Enduction Hour (N.C w/ N.C drumming), the 3 Melvins / Big Biz records and Pigface (borderline N.C not aided or hindered by 2 drummers) then wussier stuff like the Allmans and the Dead (N.C. but weak drumming due to drug-addled musos).

Seems like a pain to organise and you’d probably get a better result paring a drummer w/ percussionists. But who wants to be a percussionist? Nobody is waiting to do blow backstage with the percussionist.