Predictions: where is music going to go in the next century?

brownreasontolive

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A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 3:50 pm Six hours from infinite breakbeats

Infinite bass solo

Infinite Dadabots djent

AI generates freak folk sounds out of Daft Punk source

AI continues Nirvana input

I find all of this very upsetting.

DIY and die anyway.

A_Man_Who_Tries

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12 by A_Man_Who_Tries

brownreasontolive wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 4:25 pm I find all of this very upsetting.

So would I, if it was an either/or. I was much the same until I read Pharmako-AI a few months back. Fair enough it's a different medium, but there are parts of that book that do some mindbending things, and the process fascinates.

Related: I'd also recommend Atlas of Anomolous AI as a piece that points to more hopeful uses of the technology.

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brownreasontolive

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13 by brownreasontolive

A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 4:48 pm
brownreasontolive wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 4:25 pm I find all of this very upsetting.
So would I, if it was an either/or. I was much the same until I read Pharmako-AI a few months back. Fair enough it's a different medium, but there are parts of that book that do some mindbending things, and the process fascinates.

Related: I'd also recommend Atlas of Anomolous AI as a piece that points to more hopeful uses of the technology.

The link for your first rec is dead, unfortunately.

I appreciate what AI can do; replacing humans in difficult and dangerous jobs, etc...

What I immediately find upsetting, is that it sounds terrible and unmusical.
What concerns me further is that it also definitely sounds "good enough" for the money it costs to make - that is a bad thing.

DIY and die anyway.

A_Man_Who_Tries

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14 by A_Man_Who_Tries

That's weird - both working fine this end.

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turnbullac

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15 by turnbullac

My modular class touched on this recently. It’s surprisingly easy to make a generative patch that constantly changes and evolves but also follows various rules. Applying machine learning or neural networking to such a system seems like a really cool thing. Its kind of obvious so I’m sure there are people out there doing this on soft synths & software already.

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kokorodoko

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16 by kokorodoko

When AI music really gets going I suspect it's gonna be a lot like musique concrète in the beginning. We'd have to wait a while for the AI Kraftwerk to turn up.

Hey... wouldn't that be cool? If an AI made itself into Kraftwerk and started touring.

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17 by hbiden@onlyfans.com

i hope you like video game music and film soundtracks.

pop music today has narrowed itself down to 3 beats. take your pick :

"for that moment everything is perfect. step back from baggage claim."

M.H

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18 by M.H

Singles distributed via streaming services (albums increasingly if not totally irrelevant), novelty and image (probably video by video) will be all. I guess that will put a premium on the more vanilla aspects of songcraft and less on the more abstract, innovative ideas. It’ll be like the early days of MTV except the chances of odd things slipping through are slim to none because the algorithms have us figured out better than any VJ ever could.

The mining of the past for obscure / hip reference points to cut and paste together (described by Simon Reynolds in Retromania, very much worth your time, even though that’s over a decade old now) will become increasingly difficult to do in an interesting way.

Increased solipsism via the personalised tech bubbles will kill off the social aspects of music scenes – especially live music, I can’t see that coming back post-Covid.

DaveA

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19 by DaveA

I don't foresee a complete "death of music" unless we all end up living in some sort of abject totalitarian/post-apocalyptic hellscape. Which could happen--have certainly entertained the idea before, seen the movies, read the books, etc.--but more likely things will carry on as they've been for a while now. Which means that disposable things will keep piling up, often hogging the limelight/"making them stacks," but in the margins (or relative margins) there will still be things of interest, if you know where to find them/have a taste for them.

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wot

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20 by wot

M.H wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 4:58 pm Singles distributed via streaming services (albums increasingly if not totally irrelevant), novelty and image (probably video by video) will be all. I guess that will put a premium on the more vanilla aspects of songcraft and less on the more abstract, innovative ideas. It’ll be like the early days of MTV except the chances of odd things slipping through are slim to none because the algorithms have us figured out better than any VJ ever could.

The mining of the past for obscure / hip reference points to cut and paste together (described by Simon Reynolds in Retromania, very much worth your time, even though that’s over a decade old now) will become increasingly difficult to do in an interesting way.

Increased solipsism via the personalised tech bubbles will kill off the social aspects of music scenes – especially live music, I can’t see that coming back post-Covid.

counterpoint: cool shit is going on all across the world even as we speak, human experience will continue to fuel human expression, every generation will celebrate their own Dionysian rituals next to dimed speakers while ingesting multiple substances.

Simon Reynolds, VJs, tech bubble solipsism blah blah blah those people never did jack shit for music anyways.

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