heptagons wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:21 pm

Tom Wanderer wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:11 pm You can find a Danelectro Spring King pedal for about a hundred bucks (or less) on a good day. It's a big pedal with a real spring reverb inside. Finding a cheap amp with a built in spring reverb to bang on would work, too.

Starting from scratch with just a tank and no circuit opens a can of worms in that you have to figure out how to route and amplify your signal properly. I'd say it would be cheaper, faster, easier to get something that can be used (or modified to be used) without much hassle.

It is starting to seem that way. Spring King seems to be 99€ on Thomann, so that's not bad at all.

I'd still like to know what it would take to make spring tank work if anybody has the time to explain? Could I use a mini mixer to as an effect loop for it, or would it need more amplification to work?

Unsure if this is cheap enough or small enough for your needs, but it's stereo...

https://reverb.com/item/44089256-tascam ... everb-1983

As a recording noob, who is trying to improve, I am working on a song that would benefit from something similar to the beginning of this Queens of the Stone Age song


What would be the best way to achieve this sort of effect? (Just to be clear the effect of it sounding "thin" and than WHAM really full)

Owen wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:13 pm What would be the best way to achieve this sort of effect? (Just to be clear the effect of it sounding "thin" and than WHAM really full)

The 'thin' part sounds like it has been notch filtered - take out the high and low frequencies and just leave some mid-frequencies, similar to the 'telephone' effect. Also in mono panned straight down the middle. Then when you add the full range of frequencies and full stereo, it seems to explode out of the narrow box it was previously in.

Bandpass filter

tommy wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:03 pm

heptagons wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:21 pm

Tom Wanderer wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:11 pm You can find a Danelectro Spring King pedal for about a hundred bucks (or less) on a good day. It's a big pedal with a real spring reverb inside. Finding a cheap amp with a built in spring reverb to bang on would work, too.

Starting from scratch with just a tank and no circuit opens a can of worms in that you have to figure out how to route and amplify your signal properly. I'd say it would be cheaper, faster, easier to get something that can be used (or modified to be used) without much hassle.

It is starting to seem that way. Spring King seems to be 99€ on Thomann, so that's not bad at all.

I'd still like to know what it would take to make spring tank work if anybody has the time to explain? Could I use a mini mixer to as an effect loop for it, or would it need more amplification to work?

Unsure if this is cheap enough or small enough for your needs, but it's stereo...

https://reverb.com/item/44089256-tascam ... everb-1983

I'm pretty sure that the OP was looking for something that he could physically batter. Like treating a reverb tank as a percussion instrument (which can be awesome). That Tascam unit is a beauty, but it makes for an expensive punching bag.

Curry Pervert wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:21 pm

Owen wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:13 pm What would be the best way to achieve this sort of effect? (Just to be clear the effect of it sounding "thin" and than WHAM really full)

The 'thin' part sounds like it has been notch filtered - take out the high and low frequencies and just leave some mid-frequencies, similar to the 'telephone' effect. Also in mono panned straight down the middle. Then when you add the full range of frequencies and full stereo, it seems to explode out of the narrow box it was previously in.

Adam P wrote:Bandpass filter

Yep.. all good, and I'd personally add a little fuzzy gain (if you don't have a plug for this already this one's free and easy to use: https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/IVGI.php) to soften the attack as well. Mix the intro clip separately, and then adjust levels to get as dramatic of an effect as you want.

Have you used a protractor to align the cartridge? Have you used one of those lil stylus scales/pressure gauges to fine tune the tone arm balance?

A few years ago I was having shit issues with my setup. Occasional tracking issues that became more than occasional. Low frequency distortion on records with a pronounced low end (like hip hop, r&b, etc.). It was very frustrating. I had an old Shure Hi Track cart and it was just past it's prime. New cart and a complete realignment and balancing made a load of improvement. Huge difference. Not every record is going to sound flawless, it's the nature of the physical medium of course, but those basic steps really go quite a ways in improving playback and performance.

jason from volo wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:58 am A few records I own (out of a few hundred), no matter how much I turn down the gain on the pre-amp, will distort during playback. The distortion is mostly noticeable on lower frequencies. Two records on which this occurs: Slint - Tweez and The Beta Band - The Three EPs.

I've seen this sort of thing happen because the record was just dirty. Even records fresh from the press / packaging.
Is that possible?

A few times I've bought new records that seem to have some kind of factory schmutz on them fresh out of the shrinkwrap. They looked fine, but sounded blown out in the low end - likely something sitting in the bottom of the groove. The last example I can recall is the Neko Case box set. They sounded perfect after a run through the record cleaning machine, though.

brephophagist wrote: A few times I've bought new records that seems to have some kind of factory schmutz on them fresh out of the shrinkwrap.

Yeah.. these things are not exactly made and packaged under laboratory conditions. A good cleaning isn't totally crazy if the record seems off.