How many are ideal?

Zero
Total votes: 1 (3%)
One
Total votes: 3 (9%)
Two
Total votes: 15 (44%)
Three (two up, one down)
Total votes: 2 (6%)
Three (one up, two down)
Total votes: 3 (9%)
Four (No votes)
Sky's the limit
Total votes: 10 (29%)
Total votes: 34

Re: Tom Toms: Acceptable Quantity

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These things seem to happen in waves. The 80s/90s assumption that two rack toms and a floor were essential was refreshingly cut down to single rack tom. Now that two tom kits are ubiquitous I almost want to see someone good put an extra tom to work. The single floor thing seemed edgy for the first few acts, but feels a little too limited to my ears now that it's more common.

Re: Tom Toms: Acceptable Quantity

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Mason wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:10 pm For me it's about drum/cymbal ratio as much as quantity. I would way rather see a relatively balanced Neil Peart-scale kit (I am thinking of our FM Neal_oclocker) than someone with a normal four-pc kit but 10 "FX" cymbals that have 1-inch holes all over them.

Irrespective of the taste/needs of whoever the drummer is in a situation, I think:
- You can't have more cymbals than drums (the hi-hats count as one cymbal, so for a 4pc kit you top out at say, hi-hat, two crashes, and big separate ride).
- smaller kits are better for econo/laziness reasons (smaller vehicles, fewer mics and input channels) and therefore imo kind of globally more cool than a huge kit that means more effort and more budget.
The rest is up to taste etc. Some people want double rack toms and the cymbals with the holes in them I guess. Not my problem! I love it, keep it up.

Obviously even these universals are fake and made up too, like anything. We're just having fun on here. And it is in that spirit that I say anyone with more cymbals than drums is lower than a dog to me.
So let me get this straight. You don’t like Wailin’ Smash (Drum God)?

Re: Tom Toms: Acceptable Quantity

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I played a crap ton of 90s and early 00s gigs with two up/one down, but after I split a head during a first set and ran with one up/one down for the rest of the show, I never went back. I had a 20' crashride, an 18" crash and a 16" crash. Occasionally I'd ditch the 18. Haven't drummed a gig in years, but near the end economy was king.

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I haven't had a steady rock band in 3 years and I played my last pickup gig 2 years ago. The next time I play in a rock band writing original tunes (whenever the hell that will be) I wanna approach it more non traditionally, looking at beats more as ostinato patterns that incorporate components in less of a kick/snare/hi-hat way. I'd be interested in challenging the whole 4-piece punk drum kit thing I've always done. Definitely don't want to get into Tool territory though.
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twelvepoint wrote: I haven't had a steady rock band in 3 years and I played my last pickup gig 2 years ago. The next time I play in a rock band writing original tunes (whenever the hell that will be) I wanna approach it more non traditionally, looking at beats more as ostinato patterns that incorporate components in less of a kick/snare/hi-hat way. I'd be interested in challenging the whole 4-piece punk drum kit thing I've always done. Definitely don't want to get into Tool territory though.
Yeah.. if you're gonna get into the huge kit territory, why not accentuate the melody of the toms and play patterns as hooks. I don't understand having a huge Peart/Carrey drum kit with fuckin' deadened pinstripe toms. It just sounds like they're banging on layers of plastic most of the time.
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