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Owen wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:08 pm
When I moved into my place my main drain line in the basement would clog once or twice a year, I had a plumber come (luckily I have a plumber I love and trust) and jet the line and I'd be fine for a bit. Last December, it fucking would not clear. We put a camera down and these giant oak roots just knocked the pipe totally out. Had to break up the concrete in the laundry room where the drain pipe started, the pipe went under the wall into our pantry, out of there into the furnished room. Had to tear out the carpet, bust up concrete in three rooms. Dig the fucking pipe out and completely replace it from drain to main. About 15 feet of pipe. It was expensive and the whole time I was waiting for them to find something else awful. Now I am super paranoid about any plumbing issue that will ruin me financially.
Holy Fuck. That project is identical to ours but instead of tree roots it's corrosion and instead of 15 feet it's 30. The corporate plumbers at Plumbline quoted us something frightfully close to 5 figures which would be the biggest financial hit we've ever taken as a family.

Hopefully my independent plumber's idea can work because it bypasses concrete but it involves a jet and a pipe running through a closet so not perfect.

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Those are nightmare-inducing photos.

I remember all too well when my old house's basement drain started backing up for the first time.

After that, we also had to roto-root the (clay) sewage pipe of tree roots once a year; the alternative of course would have been to dig up the whole thing and replace it with something less susceptible to being impenetrated by tree roots.

Best of luck to you all.
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Owen wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:08 pm
losthighway wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm
Ryan Zepaltas wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:19 pm Without a doubt, Water management is the biggest stressor for me.

A plumbing leak will only happen when you are away.
My house has half century old cast iron as the main drain pipe until it gets outside and meets the clay pipe in the earth. It's beat to shit and has started to clog every 6 months. The corporate drain snakers lick their chops each time they come over because the pipe is buried under a few inches of concrete in our basement foundation so it's an expensive ass project. At some point it could totally fail and then it will become an emergency.

My regular plumber guy has been trying to get creative on how we could reroute it and bypass the old stuff without carving up the floor, but it's complicated.
When I moved into my place my main drain line in the basement would clog once or twice a year, I had a plumber come (luckily I have a plumber I love and trust) and jet the line and I'd be fine for a bit. Last December, it fucking would not clear. We put a camera down and these giant oak roots just knocked the pipe totally out. Had to break up the concrete in the laundry room where the drain pipe started, the pipe went under the wall into our pantry, out of there into the furnished room. Had to tear out the carpet, bust up concrete in three rooms. Dig the fucking pipe out and completely replace it from drain to main. About 15 feet of pipe. It was expensive and the whole time I was waiting for them to find something else awful. Now I am super paranoid about any plumbing issue that will ruin me financially.
Oh man. fuck that shit. I am sorry you had to go through that. I hate spending unsexy dollars on home shit.

I run a small winery and I am continuously dealing with facility issues. I always wonder why electrical and plumbing isn't designed for easier access in mind. I get that it comes down to aesthetics and keeping pipes from freezing, etc. Its 2022, we're living in the future, there has to be a better way. My dream home would have everything run outside the building and above ground. lol.
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I think we as a culture assume greater permanence in buildings than is realistic. A new home is warranted for what, 40 years tops? That should say something.

I don’t mean we should all live in trailers, tiny houses, yurts or whatever. But if we’re culturally committed to single family homes, we should probably be making a big deal about making it easier to entirely replace them when they’re fucked rather than repairing them in situ well past the point of diminishing returns.

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losthighway wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:30 am
Owen wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:08 pm
When I moved into my place my main drain line in the basement would clog once or twice a year, I had a plumber come (luckily I have a plumber I love and trust) and jet the line and I'd be fine for a bit. Last December, it fucking would not clear. We put a camera down and these giant oak roots just knocked the pipe totally out. Had to break up the concrete in the laundry room where the drain pipe started, the pipe went under the wall into our pantry, out of there into the furnished room. Had to tear out the carpet, bust up concrete in three rooms. Dig the fucking pipe out and completely replace it from drain to main. About 15 feet of pipe. It was expensive and the whole time I was waiting for them to find something else awful. Now I am super paranoid about any plumbing issue that will ruin me financially.
Holy Fuck. That project is identical to ours but instead of tree roots it's corrosion and instead of 15 feet it's 30. The corporate plumbers at Plumbline quoted us something frightfully close to 5 figures which would be the biggest financial hit we've ever taken as a family.

Hopefully my independent plumber's idea can work because it bypasses concrete but it involves a jet and a pipe running through a closet so not perfect.
Normally our bill would have been, $9800, but since my plumber is a friend and we have a relationship he charged me 5,000. I also paid him in cash, not sure if that helped him with his numbers. I had him do a little more since we had the floor broke up (check the line coming from the stack, re-augar all the way out to the street, etc), took about a week of hard sledge swinging work. If you can bypass breaking up concrete it will be significantly less, we tried to think of everything to get around it, but it was too fucked, so we had to do it. I wish you the best of luck and hope it can be taken care of cleanly and without a lot of expense.
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Dumb question, but how does selling a home work? I am planning on moving to Rochester this summer to be closer to work, and my brother wants to take the house. I don't need to make a profit so I was planning on selling it to him for the amount left on the mortgage at that time plus whatever taxes and fees I incur so that I end up neither really making or spending any money on it. And he's already living here anyway... so, uhm, I've been wondering what the first steps would be, basically.
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On clay pipe in the yard...

The tree in my brother's front yard destroyed his line out in front of the house. Sounds something like what was described here.

While the money was no joke for him to have his front yard dug up and the line replaced?

Having a "Clean Out..." access point in his yard instead of them having to go out through his drain?

It is pretty impressive from a "Saves some on the little headaches..." angle.

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ErickC wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:15 pm Dumb question, but how does selling a home work? I am planning on moving to Rochester this summer to be closer to work, and my brother wants to take the house. I don't need to make a profit so I was planning on selling it to him for the amount left on the mortgage at that time plus whatever taxes and fees I incur so that I end up neither really making or spending any money on it. And he's already living here anyway... so, uhm, I've been wondering what the first steps would be, basically.
This is where it pays off to have a friendly acquaintance who's a realtor or maybe mortgage broker. The real work will really be at a title company, but I would want someone to help navigate the red tape, preferably without feeling like they needed a big commission since you already have a buyer.

Rochester, NY?

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