penningtron wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:04 am Is double-sided tape adequate as I'd rather not mess with glue.

I used double-sided carpet tape from the hardware store and it worked well. Use a little bit of isopropyl alcohol to clean the surfaces before applying the tape.
Make sure it's the carpet tape meant for permanent installs, not the low-adhesive stuff meant to hold rugs in place on your floor.

Nate Dort wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:22 am

penningtron wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:04 am Is double-sided tape adequate as I'd rather not mess with glue.

I used double-sided carpet tape from the hardware store and it worked well. Use a little bit of isopropyl alcohol to clean the surfaces before applying the tape.
Make sure it's the carpet tape meant for permanent installs, not the low-adhesive stuff meant to hold rugs in place on your floor.

Going back to your first post in the thread: how hard were those hoops to wrap? Is that double sided tape as well? I could envision gaps being an issue there. Precision Drum throws hoop strips in for free if you order a pre cut (I'm lazy..) kick wrap so I might as well try.

penningtron wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:16 am

Nate Dort wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:22 am

penningtron wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:04 am Is double-sided tape adequate as I'd rather not mess with glue.

I used double-sided carpet tape from the hardware store and it worked well. Use a little bit of isopropyl alcohol to clean the surfaces before applying the tape.
Make sure it's the carpet tape meant for permanent installs, not the low-adhesive stuff meant to hold rugs in place on your floor.

Going back to your first post in the thread: how hard were those hoops to wrap? Is that double sided tape as well? I could envision gaps being an issue there. Precision Drum throws hoop strips in for free if you order a pre cut (I'm lazy..) kick wrap so I might as well try.

I used the tape on the hoops, but I think I also used contact cement all the way around to keep it from popping up.

New project popped up while I wait for the 12 string neck to arrive.

I went to visit my folks over the weekend and came back with my granda's bass drum. His snare floated around the house for decades getting banged on by kids, but I claimed it 20 years ago when I was in a band and gave it to the drummer to fix up. Things happened, people moved. I felt really bad about letting the snare go, but got it back 5 years later and it has since been thee snare in our drum set ever since. I knew there was a bass drum still squirreled away at my folks house and figured I should finally assess it before it just disintegrated. I took the hoops and heads off yesterday and it's not nearly as bad as I thought. One hoop is separated at the seam. Paint is coming off like crazy, especially on the bottom where it had been sitting for the past million years. But the shell looks pretty great, it's round, no cracks. I thought there was a crack running around the bearing edge, but it's just a really tiny gap between the bearing edge of the shell and the inner bearing hoop.

A little back story, My grandpa; Robert T. Wanderer was born in the early 20s and got this drum set in junior high. He played in the school band and with a jazz combo but that all came to an end when he finished high school and had to serve in WWII. After that he was a milk man (and one time owner of) the Glen Ellyn Dairy. He would sometimes play along to jazz records. He died before I was born.

If I'm reading the stamp correctly, this is a 1934 Ludwig Pioneer. 26"x12". I have all the hardware plus more fun stuff that's not pictured like the muffler.

I have some questions;

What is the best way to remove the paint?

For refinishing, if I paint, what paint should I use? What about a clear finish?

It looks like new hoops are readily available, I imagine I should just replace the broken/separated hoop, yes?

Recommendation for heads?

Recommendation for legs. It doesn't have any.

I'm sure I will have a lot more questions. Thank you in advance. As I was loading it up I told my mom and dad that "I know just the right people to ask about getting this back in shape". They thought it was really cool that it might make music again.

More drum pics and bonus snare pic

You might be able to glue that hoop back together. If the scarf looks funny you could hide it at the bottom. I'd try that before getting a new hoop, why not? A little warpyness on the hoop won't matter much but if it's so bad you have visible gaps around the head, that the point then yeah I might get a new hoop.

As far as heads, some older drums can size a little weird and using off the shelf plastic heads can be a problem, so just double check. While you're at it, take a few diameter measurements and see if the roundness is out significantly. If you go calfskin, there are some small places out there that can help. I think one company is "bovid" and their stuff looks nice.

You can definitely get hoop mounted spurs for drums like this.

I don't have any refinishing tips but DFTR will hopefully chime in and lay down some knowledge, because I'd like to know as well.

Great old drum.

twelvepoint wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:52 am You might be able to glue that hoop back together. If the scarf looks funny you could hide it at the bottom. I'd try that before getting a new hoop, why not? A little warpyness on the hoop won't matter much but if it's so bad you have visible gaps around the head, that the point then yeah I might get a new hoop.

As far as heads, some older drums can size a little weird and using off the shelf plastic heads can be a problem, so just double check. While you're at it, take a few diameter measurements and see if the roundness is out significantly. If you go calfskin, there are some small places out there that can help. I think one company is "bovid" and their stuff looks nice.

You can definitely get hoop mounted spurs for drums like this.

I don't have any refinishing tips but DFTR will hopefully chime in and lay down some knowledge, because I'd like to know as well.

Great old drum.

I'll try my hand at repairing the hoop. That Bovid place looks good but they don't post any prices from what I can see. I'll drop them a line.

Thanks!

twelvepoint wrote: As far as heads, some older drums can size a little weird and using off the shelf plastic heads can be a problem, so just double check. While you're at it, take a few diameter measurements and see if the roundness is out significantly. If you go calfskin, there are some small places out there that can help. I think one company is "bovid" and their stuff looks nice.

Looks like Aquarian American Vintage (slightly oversized hoop) heads are available in 26", Remo Classic Fits don't appear to be unfortunately. I would go with those + felt strips (real calfskin is expensive and will be a labor of love).

Oh and by "warpyness" I meant out-of roundness. After gluing, I'd also put the hoop on a flat surface (the side that contacts the head would be down), and see how bad that looks. Personally, I wouldn't get hung up on a little waviness over a long section, but something more egregious could affect tuning

Right, I gotcha on the warpyness. I'll give it a go.

Those American Vintage heads look good and the price is right. I emailed Bovid but I'm kind of expecting that those are going to be more than I'm looking to spend.