GuyLaCroix wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:09 pm If it's not too late (and if the parts aren't like, old Australian knobs or something) a Boss CE-1 chorus copy would be cool.

I would love to have the JC-120 chorus/vibrato circuit in a pedal. (The reverb, too.)

Heck, throw in (a refined version of?) the cruddy distortion (which does have its charms, notwithstanding its reputation) and you could have a “JC-120 FX section in a box.” I’d buy it.

GuyLaCroix wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:09 pm If it's not too late (and if the parts aren't like, old Australian knobs or something) a Boss CE-1 chorus copy would be cool.

Awhile back I watched the Police documentary, saw that Andy Summers used it and said, “l have one of those.” I have not played through it in 25 years though so I forget what it even sounds like. Can’t believe the price they go for now so it would be a nice project for the Dr. if there is enough interest.

The Yeoman Ghost wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:53 pm

GuyLaCroix wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:09 pm If it's not too late (and if the parts aren't like, old Australian knobs or something) a Boss CE-1 chorus copy would be cool.

I would love to have the JC-120 chorus/vibrato circuit in a pedal. (The reverb, too.)

The CE-1 and JC-120 Chorus/Vibrato section are roughly the same thing. The circuit could be built but it's based around a MN3002 BBD chip that isnt made and is somewhat unobtanium. If I had some chips lying around i'd make some pedals. but it'd be limited to what I have. The CE-2 is a much more popular analog chorus to build because the chips are a little more available. The BBD for that is actually in reissue production but the clock driver isnt. I have about a dozen NOS pairs of those chips which i'll probably just use up as demand dictates. Unless someone specifically wants an analog chorus or delay, i'd likely steer toward a design using the PT2399 chip. Its widely available, and a digital chip that acts and sounds very analog with a slimmer parts count.

Anyway i did get around to messing with a delay with "ring-mod" on the repeats. I use quotes because an actual ring mod circuit would be a lot to handle so i've attempted it with pseudo ring mods and octave-y things (currently there's a green-ringer in there). I got it to work but i'm questioning whether I like it or not. Standalone its kinda weird having a clean note and fucked up repeats. With a fuzz or other dirt happening in front it gets a little more interesting. Either way my dog hates it, which is a good sign. Got some other stuff taking precedent for now so it's getting pushed aside for a bit.

If you're still looking for (or open to?) ideas I've still always wanted a EHX Freedom Amp / Preamp in a box kind of thing.

Dr Tony Balls wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:44 am Anyway i did get around to messing with a delay with "ring-mod" on the repeats. I use quotes because an actual ring mod circuit would be a lot to handle so i've attempted it with pseudo ring mods and octave-y things (currently there's a green-ringer in there). I got it to work but i'm questioning whether I like it or not. Standalone its kinda weird having a clean note and fucked up repeats. With a fuzz or other dirt happening in front it gets a little more interesting. Either way my dog hates it, which is a good sign. Got some other stuff taking precedent for now so it's getting pushed aside for a bit.

what if the repeats were recursive? like the "mod" effect hit the first repeat and then again on each subsequent repeat? Not sure how to phrase it but basically each repeat would have the ring-mod effect re-applied.

Note > ring mod applied > repeated note with effect on it > ring mod applied again > 2nd repeated note with effect again > etc

Trying to envision it would that end up making it sound maybe a bit more like a sample & hold delay? I dunno. Would it sound better if the ring mod were blended in on the original note? I guess this would make it more of just a combo pedal at that point then I suppose.

BrendanK wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:15 pm If you're still looking for (or open to?) ideas I've still always wanted a EHX Freedom Amp / Preamp in a box kind of thing.

You know I tried that once and was having problems with it....ought to revisit it one of these days.

Garth wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:06 am

Dr Tony Balls wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:44 am Anyway i did get around to messing with a delay with "ring-mod" on the repeats. I use quotes because an actual ring mod circuit would be a lot to handle so i've attempted it with pseudo ring mods and octave-y things (currently there's a green-ringer in there). I got it to work but i'm questioning whether I like it or not. Standalone its kinda weird having a clean note and fucked up repeats. With a fuzz or other dirt happening in front it gets a little more interesting. Either way my dog hates it, which is a good sign. Got some other stuff taking precedent for now so it's getting pushed aside for a bit.

what if the repeats were recursive? like the "mod" effect hit the first repeat and then again on each subsequent repeat? Not sure how to phrase it but basically each repeat would have the ring-mod effect re-applied.

Note > ring mod applied > repeated note with effect on it > ring mod applied again > 2nd repeated note with effect again > etc

Trying to envision it would that end up making it sound maybe a bit more like a sample & hold delay? I dunno. Would it sound better if the ring mod were blended in on the original note? I guess this would make it more of just a combo pedal at that point then I suppose.

It already is doing that by design. Any standard delay circuit has feedback, which is just feeding the delays back into the input. So, to the extent that any one note is repeated through the loop, it is getting modified each trip around the loop.

Dr Tony Balls wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:07 am

Garth wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:06 am

Dr Tony Balls wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:44 am Anyway i did get around to messing with a delay with "ring-mod" on the repeats. I use quotes because an actual ring mod circuit would be a lot to handle so i've attempted it with pseudo ring mods and octave-y things (currently there's a green-ringer in there). I got it to work but i'm questioning whether I like it or not. Standalone its kinda weird having a clean note and fucked up repeats. With a fuzz or other dirt happening in front it gets a little more interesting. Either way my dog hates it, which is a good sign. Got some other stuff taking precedent for now so it's getting pushed aside for a bit.

what if the repeats were recursive? like the "mod" effect hit the first repeat and then again on each subsequent repeat? Not sure how to phrase it but basically each repeat would have the ring-mod effect re-applied.

Note > ring mod applied > repeated note with effect on it > ring mod applied again > 2nd repeated note with effect again > etc

Trying to envision it would that end up making it sound maybe a bit more like a sample & hold delay? I dunno. Would it sound better if the ring mod were blended in on the original note? I guess this would make it more of just a combo pedal at that point then I suppose.

It already is doing that by design. Any standard delay circuit has feedback, which is just feeding the delays back into the input. So, to the extent that any one note is repeated through the loop, it is getting modified each trip around the loop.

this sounds like utter madness and I am here for it (especially if it goes into self-oscillation)

Garth wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:11 am (especially if it goes into self-oscillation)

i'd be a bad builder if I didnt allow that to happen.

Balls Royale. A BK Butler style tube overdriver with modification to take a 12VDC source and make it a bit more pedal board friendly.

A pair of custom order Dual Pentode Boosts. Each one is a doubled up version of the Pentode Boost i've made previously. Two parallel EF86 preamps with common gain control.