numberthirty wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:12 pm

Krev wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:23 pm This is what happens when an orange turd who lost the popular vote is able to appoint two cultists yearning for theocracy to the highest court in the fucking land.

Politely?

This is an incorrect assessment.

What this actually is?

It is what happens when you throw someone who won't accept that you don't get to go out on your own terms as a Supreme Court Justice on top of someone whose pride(or worse, actual stupidity...) won't allow them to run a unity ticket with Sanders that will actually stand a chance of defeating the "Orange Turd..." in question.

Obviously, protecting what even RGB pretty well said was a "Duct Tape..." fix was not important enough for either one of those folks to take a half a second and level with themselves.

Hillary Clinton had the chance to make gay rights history. She refused.

During her first run for president in 2008, Hillary Clinton had an opportunity to become an undisputed leader in the gay rights movement.

As she prepared for a forum on the gay-oriented Logo network, she reached out to her friend Hilary Rosen, a political consultant who is a lesbian. Rosen expressed frustration that so many mainstream political figures opposed legalized same-sex marriage, and she challenged Clinton to speak out for a community that had strongly supported her.

Clinton refused.

“I’m struggling with how we can support this with a religious and family context,’’ Rosen recalled Clinton telling her. Clinton just wanted to know the best way to explain the position.

The exchange was painful for Rosen, who had known Clinton since they worked on children’s issues together in the 1980s.

“We took it personally,” Rosen said. “You try not to because it’s politics, but in this case, the politics is personal.”

“You could see the powerful way she has leveraged her influence on behalf of women and children or other issues,” said Alan van Capelle, a former director of the now-disbanded Empire State Pride Agenda. “In terms of LGBT rights and marriage, there were people who led and people who followed. And on that issue, she followed.”

numberthirty wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 7:00 pm Put plainly...

A lot of Democrats don't seem to have any problem putting dealing with things off until tomorrow as long as they get their slice of the pie today.