Hi,
I have a very basic question, the answer is probably obvious for a lot of you but I'm not sure how to proceed.
I've got a recording next week. There are two independant rooms (studio 1 and studio 2) and a control room.
In studio 1 there are guitar and bass amps. In studio 2 there is the drums, and the bass and guitar players. I need to send their guitar and bass signal from studio 2 where they'll be playing to the amps in studio 1. There are only 10 XLR patch spots on the walls and all of them are taken by the drum mics so I cannot use them. I was initially thinking of just sending a long jacks from one room to the other, but the studio guy just told me that the distance far exceed 10 meters. Further than 10 meters, i hear there were some signal loss for asymetric signals.
How should I proceed then to send guitar and bass signal from one room to the other ? I thought of using a D.I. in studio 2, let the signal travel through the XLR symetric cable to studio 1, then use a D.I. in reverse, come out as a jack, and go into the amps. However, if I do this I cannot record the D.I. signal into the console (which is a shame especially for the bass, and also if we happen to want to reamp something).
Any thoughts ? thanks !
Re: Make guitar/bass jacks longer
2It might be the better idea to have the amps in the same room with the guit/bass players and use long speaker cables instead of using over long instrument cables.
Re: Make guitar/bass jacks longer
3^ Not a bad idea.
Other possibilities:
A buffered stompbox is said to reduce signal loss along cable runs.
Little Labs makes a device called an STD that converts signal for long instrument cable runs along an xlr then converts them back at the amp. I think Radial makes a similar device. But that's a rushed purchase in your timeframe.
Other possibilities:
A buffered stompbox is said to reduce signal loss along cable runs.
Little Labs makes a device called an STD that converts signal for long instrument cable runs along an xlr then converts them back at the amp. I think Radial makes a similar device. But that's a rushed purchase in your timeframe.
Re: Make guitar/bass jacks longer
4I use T.C Electronics Teleports. You have to buy a trans side and a rec. side but they are only $20 each. They convert your inst level sig to balanced line level and send it over XLR to the Receiver side that plugs into your amp. you can go like 300 feet or something. IT's all active buffered, so in theory, little to no loss of tone. I have had good results, and they are the cheapest thing like this on the market. I have 2 sets. I also use them to reamp from my board to the amp in the other room for spring reverb on vocals. Works great.
https://www.tcelectronic.com/series.htm ... PORTSERIES
https://www.tcelectronic.com/series.htm ... PORTSERIES
Re: Make guitar/bass jacks longer
5We did this using a boss stompbox years ago- worked fine. Any buffered pedal will work. Just chain some long cables. If you are playing music with any distrortion or grit to it, the signal degradation will likely not be detectable.
Re: Make guitar/bass jacks longer
6You won't hear any signal loss at 10 or even 20 m. Maybe if you were running high fidelity audio that far, but for a band-limited signal like guitar, you'll never hear it.
Re: Make guitar/bass jacks longer
7Thanks for your replies ! I don't really understand what the difference is between the TC electronics teleport and a D.I/Reversed D.I. combo ?
As for the buffered pedals, i didn't think of that, thanks !
As for the buffered pedals, i didn't think of that, thanks !
Re: Make guitar/bass jacks longer
8Just from taking a quick look at the TC...Abebibocombi wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:33 pm Thanks for your replies ! I don't really understand what the difference is between the TC electronics teleport and a D.I/Reversed D.I. combo ?
As for the buffered pedals, i didn't think of that, thanks !
It appears to be powered/active.
Most likely, a "DI..." work around won't be.
Never mind that the TC was designed with this very issue in mind.
As for pedals?
The MXR Custom Audio Electronics Boost/Line Driver also seems like it was designed with this in mind.