Jimbo wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:25 pm
DaveA wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:13 pm
Echoing others' sentiments: just 'cause heads
should roll doesn't mean they will.
It's interesting, because since around when Trump took office I've seen Watergate bandied about a good deal, sometimes with Woodward and Bernstein themselves as panel guests. And yet, when since then has a top-ranking U.S. official been prematurely ousted or gone to jail? It's happened to mayors, occasionally, sure, but no POTUS since Nixon has been ex-communicated from political life. Rather than Watergate being a precedent, in legal terms, the way things have played out, it seems like more of a fluke.
From time to time I think about the irreparable harm Gerald Ford did to our country by pardoning Nixon. Not only by ensuring no president will ever face consequences for their actions, but also if he hadn't done that he probably would have been reelected, and the malaise of the Carter years would have fallen on him, making it so Reagan wouldn't have gotten elected in 1980.
I am sick about how there's no accountability on a national executive level. Ford set a horribly stupid precedent.
Can anyone think of any scenario where a president would get removed from office while their party held the senate? The only takeaway from Nixon/Watergate is you're only a loser if you admit it. In that regard, Trump is a success story, and will be remembered as such by enough people to make a difference.
These hearings will be worthless outside of having a nicely researched timeline on the record. When trump or desantis wins in two years, I'm sure it will be officially stricken some how.