kokorodoko wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:30 am But like, I'm listening to "Plus" right now, and like all their records for a long while it's "tktktktktk sqwersh blurt blurt blurt" and I miss the simple beauty of Incunabula. There are many melodic themes in contemporary EDM music that I feel like one could work with on a similar pattern.

Yeah I understand and sympathize with this criticism, because they were so good at writing interesting harmonic stuff - “corc”, “rae”, “cichli”, all of the Garbage EP, etc. I think they just got bored of doing that sort of thing, which, I can’t blame them. I thought Confield was the turning point where they got significantly more abstract and less melodic. They still do it sometimes, it’s just buried under tons of toilet noise. The last tracks on NTS 4 and SIGN are both good examples of that, I think.

Personally, here is my Slayer ranking. South of Heaven > Reign in Blood > Seasons in the Abyss > big jump > Show No Mercy > Hell Awaits > Haunting the Chapel. I won't weigh in on the rest. I don't think Show No Mercy is recorded that badly, but the mix/production isn't great. I just relistened. Sounds better than I remember it. It's fine but I'd love to get rid of that reverb. Sounds like early Judas Priest. I just don't think the songs are there yet. Die by the Sword is cool.

As for Def Leppard... there is no reason to own anything but High N Dry and Pyromania. Period.

a force of Satan's MIIIIIGHT

as for def leppard I ain't here for none of y'all's foolishness

Did we do a Slayer album poll? We have to have already done a Slayer album poll.

biscuitdough wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:15 pm Did we do a Slayer album poll? We have to have already done a Slayer album poll.

According to the forum search engine, it appears that the answer is no.

Poll created.

The one good thing that Kid Rock ever said was "Def Leppard sucks!" in the film Joe Dirt.

Most times the first album comes off as unpolished and rough around the edges if you ask me.

Definitely I believe in the whole "sophomore slump" thing way more. So many 2nd albums that are reallllly bad, compared to a debut that was actually good.

The Clash - The Clash

The top of the second tier of US thrash bands is relevant here.

The proof: Exodus has a very different vibe on the first one, largely due to Paul Baloff. I personally can’t do the Steve Souza stuff.

The exception: Overkill did two good but not great speed metal albums before really finding their niche. Under the Influence and Years of Decay are where they really fired on all cylinders. Later stuff isn’t as unified in its vision, despite being well put together for the most part.