Isn’t this group of bands popular in the US, because they have more in common with American hardcore than UK pink? I don’t think I even knew that Discharge was British until just now.

losthighway wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:54 pm Can someone tell me their favorite Crass album?

Best Before is a singles collection that gives a good overview of their time as an active band. Penis Envy is a great album.

I haven't heard this Cock Sparrer record in forever. It's really catchy, but sounds like glam rock compared to Discharge. I used to hear "Riot Squad" a lot at Boston clubs.

Discharge. They influenced a lot of American hardcore that I grew up with and loved.

Crass was good in small doses. Love the idea of them, but the execution doesn't do much for me, musically anyway.

Bands who like Discharge tend to be better than bands that like Cock Sparrer, but I’d rather listen to Cock Sparrer than Discharge most days. Crass are more interesting than good.

Cock Sparrer also predate the Sex Pistols and The Clash, although their success didn’t. Crass I think were around in some form before the “first wave” too. Second wave would really be like, Angelic Upstarts, UK Subs, Abrasive Wheels, Blitz, Chaos UK, Amebix… mostly with influence from some of the listed bands.

Seconding the Rudimentary Peni suggestion.

biscuitdough wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:09 pm Crass I think were around in some form before the “first wave” too.

They were created after seeing the Clash, but you're probably thinking of the Dial House commune they came from which started in the late 60s (?). The band members were doing various things pre-punk (e.g. EXIT), but Crass itself is definitely post-first wave.

(Quite interesting echoes of Throbbing Gristle's roots in the 60s counter culture, and work in art)

Discharge should be winning by landslide

Discharge. screw Crass.