penningtron wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:05 am Have not thought about this band since 2005. I filed it right next to other retro b/w Pro Tools bands of the time like Wolfmother and Jet.

My mind went to a similar place.

Of all these studied throwback bands I've always found Graveyard to be the most worthwhile.

Neutral. Pointless idiot “fun” (because it doesn’t matter if you don’t like it, you’re required to have “fun”). They get points for making Mike Patton mad just by virtue of existing, though.

If they didn't exist, there'd be no need to invent them. Although this does already exist, and I admit I kinda do like the way Justin Hawkins reinvented it. (Guilty pleasure, sue me.)

M.H wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:50 am

ChudFusk wrote: I don't know if you are doing a caricature of a smug Englishperson or if you're serious, but we are perfectly capable of understanding your sophisticated pop music thank you very much.

You might want to reread my original post.

My point was that The Darkness are lo.com.denom, cynical industry bullshit. Easily as bad as Steel Panther.

You clearly have not listened to enough Steel Panther...

ah, an ironic (or is it??) retro throwback to music that I didn't like in the first place

CRAP

Here you go, fun haters...

(If you can hate a slide solo this fun, seriously... Hit the old folks home...)

When Permission To Land came out my roommate Ray and I were the twin lead guitarists in a band so anything with Thin Lizzy overtones was just fine by us. We saw The Darkness live on their first US tour and they rocked. Their Christmas video is still pretty funny and great. Permission To Land has bitchin' riffs galore but everything after that blows chunks. Today they're a weird little cul de sac in popular music that never spawned any imitators (in the US at least). Maybe that's why I still like that first album. You know, a little goes a long way.

That thing called love song fucking blows. And, allegedly, ostensibly, purportedly, the mechanics of this song should speak to me because I believe that Too Fast For Love is rad.

crap

I don't blame anyone for not liking The Darkness, as I didn't like them until the context changed. I think we all unconsciously decide what we love and hate based on other contextual factors, and if something that isn't intrinsically beautiful comes into our lives under the wrong circumstances then we are unlikely to appreciate its more superficial qualities. The Darkness are ridiculous, but so is the entire genre of music that they emulate, and I can't think of any reason to hate it now that both the original butt rock and the redux are in the rearview mirror. But I get it that there's also no reason for anyone to like them either, unless they had experiences with the music that made it palatable, as I have.

Now a band like Greta Van Fleet needs to fuck off and die because they are shitty at copying classic rock, and because they act like they aren't a cover band.

numberthirty wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:48 pm You clearly have not listened to enough Steel Panther...

I've heard enough of it - I like the joke fine during interviews / promos etc (esp Lexxi), but the songs are mildly funny once. And while I get promotors (esp on the Euro-metal-mega-summer-festival circuit) like them, why would anyone chose to listen to them over Van Halen?

To clarify re: "fun" - totally fine as a reaction from the audience, nearly always lame if the performer is trying (forcing) to illict that reaction - I always found the Darkness especially cynical and almost condescending in that regard.