biscuitdough wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:03 pm

dontfeartheringo wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:52 pm

penningtron wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:25 pm Goddammit if another fucking recruiter contacts me about working at Uline. Go figure: no one wants to work for the biggest insurrectionist funder in the state who insist employees work 5 days a week on site in the middle of nowhere.

WFH is for Bolsheviks.

I agree, WFH is very good.

The crusty boomer execs during 2020: "thank you so much for keeping our company afloat from your homes. In fact, we had a record breaking year."

Same execs in 2022: "we need you back in our office for some reason."

(probably worth pointing out the jobs I'm talking about are in fucking cloud software)

Read more about the shitty Uilein family here: https://www.propublica.org/article/ulin ... ion-denial

I've worked from home for about a decade and it has its perks but it's super lonely. I kinda want to move to a hybrid deal. I wouldn't want to go back to an office full time again but some in person socialization would be good for me.

twelvepoint wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:08 pm I've worked from home for about a decade and it has its perks but it's super lonely.

Yeah it's a thing. But my 'work friends' were boring anyway, and it's really other areas of my life where I need to ramp up social interaction.

twelvepoint wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:08 pm I've worked from home for about a decade and it has its perks but it's super lonely. I kinda want to move to a hybrid deal. I wouldn't want to go back to an office full time again but some in person socialization would be good for me.

I'm currently "hybrid" and supposed to go into the office at least twice a week. I generally don't mind it; there are times when it's a nice change of pace and environment.

However, as most of the team in which I work (including my manager) are based in California or East Asia, there are other times when I get there, work for a few hours, say to myself "why am I here", and go home at lunch and finish working there in the afternoon.

At least traffic is still reduced as compared to before the pandemic.

jfv wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:28 pm However, as most of the team in which I work (including my manager) are based in California or East Asia, there are other times when I get there, work for a few hours, say to myself "why am I here", and go home at lunch and finish working there in the afternoon.

Yeah. The few "itching to go back" types I used to work with found themselves going back to largely empty office buildings; even worse there was a 'smart' motion sensor lighting system so one could often be working in the fucking dark.

Whether companies like it or not, things are not going back to before times.

At least traffic is still reduced as compared to before the pandemic.

Huh. I've been back thru Chicago a lot more lately and traffic is still murder just like it always was.

penningtron wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:00 pm

At least traffic is still reduced as compared to before the pandemic.

Huh. I've been back thru Chicago a lot more lately and traffic is still murder just like it always was.

In the city proper, I don’t doubt it.

However, commuting from the exurbs to the cluster of businesses around Deerfield and Northbrook, where most of the traffic is related to said businesses (with offices that are half-empty), yeah, it’s definitely still reduced.

jfv wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:13 pm

penningtron wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:00 pm

At least traffic is still reduced as compared to before the pandemic.

Huh. I've been back thru Chicago a lot more lately and traffic is still murder just like it always was.

In the city proper, I don’t doubt it.

However, commuting from the exurbs to the cluster of businesses around Deerfield and Northbrook, where most of the traffic is related to said businesses (with offices that are half-empty), yeah, it’s definitely still reduced.

Traffic in Austin seems worse than pre-pandemic, but then the population keeps getting bigger and bigger. My job ends on the 16th, and I’m tempted to find a WFH situation, just to avoid the roads. Nobody around here uses turn signals anymore, and I feel like I take a big risk every time I go out in peak traffic times.

penningtron wrote: Read more about the shitty Uilein family here: https://www.propublica.org/article/ulin ... ion-denial

And in case anybody needs new vendors for boxes, packing tape, etc:

https://refuseuline.com/

penningtron wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:00 pm

jfv wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:28 pm However, as most of the team in which I work (including my manager) are based in California or East Asia, there are other times when I get there, work for a few hours, say to myself "why am I here", and go home at lunch and finish working there in the afternoon.

Yeah. The few "itching to go back" types I used to work with found themselves going back to largely empty office buildings; even worse there was a 'smart' motion sensor lighting system so one could often be working in the fucking dark.

Whether companies like it or not, things are not going back to before times.

At least traffic is still reduced as compared to before the pandemic.

Huh. I've been back thru Chicago a lot more lately and traffic is still murder just like it always was.

Yeah, this is true. My last job that had a regular office environment, which I left in 2015, was a situation where I had clients across the country, and my immediate team members were all over the country, so it just felt like I was working with strangers. If I had camped out for work at my local coffee shop, there would have been more people I had meaningful interactions with.

Learned I will be here for at least another two months. That's a fucking long time.