Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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losthighway wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:43 am
numberthirty wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:33 pm Reaper. Seriously.
I'm just starting my Reaper journey after being forced off a platform I used for 20 years. So far any functionality I can think of is a quick search away. Now we'll see how long it takes me to get efficient on it. I'd give it an A+ for functionality and a B- for being intuitive, but that's probably how any software feels to someone making a change.
google search is your friend, also those videos by these guys are very good and get you in pretty deep

https://www.youtube.com/@REAPERMania

https://www.youtube.com/@HopPoleStudios
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Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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yard barf wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:22 am I gotta admit, that seems easy and just what I want.
While I'm not a hundred percent on that it would get you out of the particular spot that it sounds like you are attempting to contend with?

I would not be all that surprised if you could put Reaper on the "Pro Tools..." computer that you mentioned, and record with it while mixing with your existing Pro Tools setup.

Now, all that said?

Reaper is probably worth taking a look at if you want something that can be "Straight Up Blockhead..." basic or particularly involved depending on how a given user would like to operate.

Also totally worth mentioning that the forum on the Reaper website is a keeper and also has a "Mac..." specific sub-forum.

Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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Dudley wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:38 am When I play my Gretsch G5230T, the little finger of my pick hand kind of rests on the pickguard, and if I'm playing fast, this seems to creates static-y noises through the pickups. Do I need to ground my pickguard? Insulate it from the pick-ups? Or just put on my big boy trousers and not worry the crackling? It's NOT a percussive sound - it's not my hand hitting the surface, it's more a crackle if the surface is rubbed - and the p/ups aren't noticeably microphonic. It's more of a kind of "bad connection" crackle, and if I make sure nothing is touching the pickguard, it goes away.
How is the pickguard mounted?

Any chance that it is made out of something that could be conductive?

Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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Maybe its time for another Reaper thread? Two more questions:

Anyone familiar with an app that I can use to view a laptop window on my phone? Example - I am recording myself with a guitar in my hand and the laptop / preamp meters arent in line of sight. Surely there’s some sort of way to view what’s happening on my Thinkpad on my iphone? Just being able to check the peaks would be enough

Second question:

For recording with an analog mixer to Reaper - then monitoring from the board - while phase adjustments are made in the DAW, the computer faders stay at zero/panned right down the middle before going out to the board and monitors where adjustments are made/ outboard gear is added etc.

Lets say for the hell of it you record guitar w/ a few mics Then you record a rhythm part with another few mics, and then bass, then acoustic - how are you staying organized? Are you combining tracks together in Reaper or leaving them separate? Or do you just monitor something like the close mic on each source for recording and playback, leaving the auxiliary tracks for each source quiet until you’re ready to get a rough mix going?

I won’t likely use up the 32 channels on the board that fast, but when some are being used as preamps, others as playback and with limited convertor I/O it all adds up to a lot going on.

I imagine a lot of it is just down to a workflow that gets established with experienxe, but I’m interested in your thoughts.

Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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I can only help on the second question.

The answer to routing strategies is really that you will have so many choices for where you direct signal traffic that you will switch things around easily according to circumstance.

The absolute simplest scenario is you have a rhythm track recorded and you're overdubbing stuff on it. I personally would have the general master output from the software going to channels 1 and 2 on the board. I'd keep those channels on the board panned and treat it as a stereo pair. Then I'd take whatever I'm adding on and monitor it through channel 3. As I'm futzing around I can keep adjusting monitoring volume for these two main elements quickly by grabbing a fader with my hand. If it's more complex, like I have a close mic and a room mic I might want the close mic on 3 and the room on 4 so I can check out what they sound like together, and maybe mute the room mic if it's distracting me while I'm strumming.

Your DAW is going to default to playing everything through its virtual master bus, which will have to go out somewhere for monitoring. If at any point you want to split up those tracks you're only limited by channels on the board and outputs on your converter. Some people get in to analog summing and send out stems to the board to then print down as one stereo track. This seems to be less fashionable, but some still swear by it. I typically use outboard gear in the mix stage by picking channels on the board for whatever track(s) I want to effect, send to those channels on the board, send aux outputs from the board to whatever magic box, monitor the return from the magic box on a separate track so I have a dry and wet version of what I'm doing on the board (with some phase weirdness meaning that I wouldn't want a wet and dry of a compressor send both playing at once because it sounds like garbage). This means printing the effect in real time which is less efficient then a plugin. Or you can have output channels from your DAW always hooked up to specific things. It could be like "channel 16 is always going to the reamp box I use to send stuff to my pedal board." Having a patchbay can increase the signal flow flexibility even more.

If this sounds confusing, it's only when written in English. Once you start directing traffic on a mixing desk with maybe the help of a patch bay it's all water flowing down hill.

Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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numberthirty wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:23 pm Now, past all of that carrying on?

The demo version of Reaper is fully functional.

You could totally try it out. I could most likely walk you through trying to do what you started out with, and you wouldn't really have to put any dough into the attempt.

(Well, as long as you've got a way to connect to and power the headphones in question...)
Thanks, man! This recording thing won't be happening for a little while so I have some time to check this out.

Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:05 pm Maybe its time for another Reaper thread? Two more questions:

Anyone familiar with an app that I can use to view a laptop window on my phone? Example - I am recording myself with a guitar in my hand and the laptop / preamp meters arent in line of sight. Surely there’s some sort of way to view what’s happening on my Thinkpad on my iphone? Just being able to check the peaks would be enough

Possibly Parsec?

Second question:

For recording with an analog mixer to Reaper - then monitoring from the board - while phase adjustments are made in the DAW, the computer faders stay at zero/panned right down the middle before going out to the board and monitors where adjustments are made/ outboard gear is added etc.

Lets say for the hell of it you record guitar w/ a few mics Then you record a rhythm part with another few mics, and then bass, then acoustic - how are you staying organized? Are you combining tracks together in Reaper or leaving them separate? Or do you just monitor something like the close mic on each source for recording and playback, leaving the auxiliary tracks for each source quiet until you’re ready to get a rough mix going?

The inputs of my card are thru-put to the outputs of my card and the outputs of my card feed the line inputs of my Console. The faders on my board DO NOT Affect the level going to the DAW (I had to move a jumper on each Channel to make this happen) so I can make a mix of any inputs I want. The Stereo out of the DAW comes into the board on a Stereo Channel so I can also listen to/ play to the DAW playback y pushing up a fader. I can make any mix in Reaper that I want to hear. I NEVER use the Live Monitoring from Reaper due to it being the most Latent way possible to monitor (the higher the buffer size you use, the more latent the monitoring source will be). The way I do it, the live input is zero MS latent (internal routing of input to output on my card is <1ms), and I never have to worry about input latency. I also never use plugins on the input so I never have to worry bout that. This way I can also feed Headphones off the board AUC sends and they are zero latency for the players

I won’t likely use up the 32 channels on the board that fast, but when some are being used as preamps, others as playback and with limited convertor I/O it all adds up to a lot going on.

If you are using your board preamps as input, you can monitor them live by listening to them off the board channel, don't listen through reaper at all other than the Reaper Mix playback. What console are you using? Making your Direct Outputs PRE Fader solves a lot of live monitoring issues. You set gain to Reaper using preamp knob, mix your monitoring on the faders independent to the input to Reaper. Cans out of AUX sends. Reaper playback, or any side mixes you want coming back to the desk on extra channels for monitoring. Before I made my channels Pre fader Direct Out, it wasn't very helpful for tracking at all.
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Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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Midas Venice 320 > RME digiface > Ferrofish Pulse 16

From my reading on the Midas board, I do need to go and do some kind of jumpering on it like Kniferide mentions. I just keep the fader at zero when I’m using the board pres into Reaper so it doesn’t really bother me but I understand the issue. Just wasn’t sure if it would be a big pain in the ass to open that thing or what.

So the first thing I need to work on that yall mention - I’m not monitoring off of a simple stereo mix off of the master out.. i remove that completely and am setting up every individual track in reaper with its input is while recording and then setup the out for playback. Hence all the channels being eaten up. Which I knew probably wasn’t what most people did. So setting up a main left and right mix or channel 1 and 2 would be helpful for sure. Less to mess with while i should be working on micing and performances.

I play along to pre-recorded tracks through the board’s headphone amp but I never have the instrument I am recording come through the phones during the take just because it makes more sense to me acoustically to have my headphones not fully on one ear. Latency doesn’t seem to be an issue at all so far, but I am sure to play along to the close mics. Especially after I blew a 10 minute take playing along to a room mic with a 50 ms playback delay on it

I also need to work on being able to pull up different mixes for headphones and such. That would help get my mind around the routing. Right now I just put the master mix to headphones while recording and then have the fader at zero, mute off, and master off on the board pre I am recording in Reaper.

I appreciate yalls help. I really like using the board and probably wouldn’t be recording if I had to do everything through software. Not necessarily out of any grand design, I just have a job where I’m already on a computer for 9 hours a day.

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