Subregion: The Deep South?

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A friend who lives in Blanco, TX, once invited an old band of mine to play an outdoor fest/cancer fundraiser. Absolutely love going on the road but I'm always on guard which tempers the adoration. I had a wonderful time. Shelley Duvall (love her) is a resident and was hoping to catch a glimpse but didn't as she is a recluse and neighbors are fiercely protective. The show was a lot of fun. We were well-received, but the moths are a bit much. They are as big as pterodactyls and eager to get in your face. I was also hoping to go tubing but didn't want to press my luck with sundry insects or delinquents. The weather sucked but I experienced worse humidity in AZ. Blanco, TX, was not crap but I couldn't shake the feeling that if our visit wasn't announced and I happened to roll through town on my own, to trap moths or go toobin, without any buffers things could have gone south.

Grandparents on my father's side resided in Memphis when they were alive. Visited them a couple of times as a child but remember nothing about the city.

As progressive as Chicago appears we have our own unique brand of racism, subtle or otherwise. No geographical area is free of racist thought or deeds. We had freakin' Nazis marching in Chicago as recently as the early-80's. Still, the deep south, especially deep, deep south is quite worrisome. It just seems more brazen and entrenched the deeper you go. And the moths...*shudders*

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I spend a lot of time in Mississippi, on a farm on the Big Black River, about 45 minutes North of Jackson.
There are plenty of tacky racists, for sure, but there are others who keep me from painting the place with a broad brush. There are artists, eccentrics, and just plain interesting people all over the place, if you know where to look.

I’ve spent quite a bit of time in Jackson, too. It has a crumbling infrastructure and the crime is intense, but it has its charms. It is also the most boodilicious city in America. I’ve never seen so many perfect butts, even on the white girls. I’d say it’s something in the water, but nobody in their right mind drinks from the municipal line. No wonder they call it Hinds County!

Just North of Jackson is Madison, where all of the rich whites flew. Have you ever wondered what Olive Garden would be like as a city? Look no further than Madison. Remarkably gauche and next-level gaudy.

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pldms wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:57 am
Dave N. wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:36 pm I spend a lot of time in Mississippi, on a farm on the Big Black River,
Mentally inserted a blues lick at this point. I assume you been plooooooooowwwwwwwwing, picking cotton all day long etc etc.
I hate to burst your bubble, but it’s mostly feed corn and soybeans, picked by dudes on big tractors.

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The most influential college professor I had, who worked with me on my senior thesis in writing was from rural Alabama. The first couple weeks in his American Poetry course I was repeatedly rectifying his drawl (not a twang he'd insist) and the harsh stereotypes I as a westerner with Great Lakes stock had towards people who spoke that way. He was one of the smartest people I've ever known. Most of his work was built on rectifying the tension between the kindness of the people he grew up around, the stifling lack of economic opportunity and the horrifying history of the region.

I don't know how you rectify all of that, but it takes more experience than I've had there. I know my stereotypes are off, it's much better and much worse in some places.

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Hi, hello, hello, everyone. Hello.

The Deep South is the espresso of American Capitalism. Wealth concentrated in the hands of a tiny minority, economic precarity for everyone else.

If you are not useful to capital you are Bad. If you are useful to capital (cop, worker drone, salesman, soldier), you are Good.

The way they sell this kind of economic disparity as The Correct and Right Way to Run a Railroad to a population that is majority disenfranchised from wealth is through Jesus, Patriarchy, and the Protestant Work Ethic.

Down here in Real America, this is amped up to pathological levels, but it's the same all over this great nation of ours. (see also: South Side of Chicago or East St Louis, IL)

As with everywhere in America, the majority of people in the Deep South are kind, generous, optimistic, and think of themselves as Good People. In the right circumstances, they will literally give you the shirt off of their backs. It's hard to keep the lid on Bad People (re: not useful to capital), though, if everyone is busy giving away their worldly possessions and following the Man from Galilea/Son o' God as the character was originally written.

What's that quote?
frank wilhoit wrote:Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
America is experiencing a managed decline in material well-being for everyone except for a tiny sliver of exceedingly wealthy people. American prosperity is dissolving like Hemingway describing how a millionaire goes broke, "very gradually and then all at once." In 1946, 51% of all manufactured goods in the WORLD were produced in America. There's nowhere to go but down from there. If the Tiny Sliver people are going to continue to live at the comfort level to which they have become accustomed, they're going to have to have an army of mooks to keep Everyone Else from getting a crumb from a piece of the pie. Fortunately, there's Race, Class, and Gender to use as a motivator for the Good (useful to capital) people.

Historically, the roots of this struggle are obvious: The American South was basically a colonial state where people were forced to work for free under pain of death or mutilation. The transition of enslaved people to Free Men was met with a brutal mix of state sanctioned violence and political disenfranchisement tactics. This continues to this day. After all, in 1912, the population of Georgia was majority Black. The Klan in Georgia really hit its stride in 1915, using terror tactics and economic/political control to drive Black Georgians out of the state. (Hello, South Side of Chicago)

Georgia still has the 2nd largest population of Black people in the country, after Texas, however. When you begin to understand this dynamic through the lens of post-colonial America, the intractable nature of Southern (and American) Racism comes into much clearer focus. The police are a colonial occupation force, and because of the significantly higher representation of Black Political Power being in the South, you're going to see a much more obvious and pitched battle between entrenched power and the lives and livelihoods of its Black citizens. What's wrong with the South? Oligarchal Capitalism is what's wrong with the South. The same thing that's wrong with the rest of America.

Fried catfish is motherfucking awesome, though.
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