PEPPER! wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:28 pm I also tried an OC5 but it's not as fun and as Garth says the SY-1 tracks way better.

This is surprisingly disappointing to read. The OC-5 had a super weird arc where it was announced and unavailable anywhere for literally years. I had mistakenly assumed/hoped it would have the same tracking algorithms as the SY series...but that doesn't seem to be the case. #sadface

I guess I should qualify that - the OC5 tracks miles better than the OC2 and I wouldn't say it tracks badly at all. I find the SY1 more responsive though. Sometimes I mute the guitar pickup and just use the bass one, and the SY1 is just better at being a fake synth than the OC5 is at being a fake bass guitar.

There's a setting on the OC5 where it just plays the bottom note in a chord and it does that really well if the tone knob is rolled off a little. Come to think of it FM guylacroix might be able to use one on the bass side of his rig to get what he wants.

You buds are priceless...

Could try tapping pickups to different outputs, like neck to bass amp, bridge to guitar amp. I dunno. Maybe an octave pedal in there? Tarus pedals? Get a mandolin player so the guitar is the bass in relation?

The mandolin player *would* set you apart from other doomsters.

Frankie99 wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:42 pm The mandolin player *would* set you apart from other doomsters.

Doom Grass

Plenty of mandolin players up in the hills around here, but it's probably a pain to get them to downtune.

Thanks all for advice, scored an SY-1 and will will report back.

Another option would be playing to a bass backing track. This would likely require though the drummer playing to a click (could have a stereo mix split with the click going to the drummer's earbuds and the bass going to the PA or a bass rig). You could have the bass then getting reamped, or just having a recorded track that sounds how you want going to PA and monitors.

Not as fun (especially having the drummer play to a click which is it's own set of complications) but maybe that'll even sort out a bassist who sees you guys and then is convinced you need an actual person playing bass (see all the dudes who keep trying to convince Justin to let them play drums for the Austerity Program).

If I may play devil's advocate, how much more low end are you looking for?

I'm a bassist and more often than not I encourage my guitarist band mates to cut their lows to give me room.

I'm not a doom maven but from what I've heard the guitars take up a lot of the low end real estate and the bass is secondary. Guitar is a bass instrument after all. Now if you head north on the fretboard and the bottom empties out, yeah, that could be a thing. Don't know how you play.

What I'm getting it is, how do you sound right now? I suspect that simply eq'ing the guitar and kick drum might be more than adequate to crush some skulls. Sure, other bands do this that and the other thing. But maybe you're better off without a third personality to coordinate schedules with/ argue about artwork/ bail out of jail etc.

That sort of thing.

Edited: From the point of view of a guy whose former bandmates convinced him that a human drummer was necessary for Real Rock but has been playing in a drum machine band for the last decade and couldn't be happier.

Also, Pig Destroyer.

EIGHT STRING BASS?