A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:59 am

jfv wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:53 am if you were to break up both bands into each respective player (which works well band versus band), who would win?

By that criteria, it's a clean sweep for The Smiths.

Which is an excellent example of the value of the gestalt.

losthighway wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:19 am Which is an excellent example of the value of the gestalt.

Very much so.

I wonder what the results would be if REM dismembered after Document or at least after Automatic for the people

boilermaker wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:54 pm I wonder what the results would be if REM dismembered after Document or at least after Automatic for the people

Oh if they'd broken up before Green I'm sure people in hardcore bands would have gotten WAY into REM at some point.

boilermaker wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:54 pm I wonder what the results would be if REM dismembered after Document or at least after Automatic for the people

Probably a lot of sadness over the dismemberment of REM.

I mean, I get that one would prefer the earlier stuff, but to cut the band into pieces over it?

Wood Goblin wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:28 pm

boilermaker wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:54 pm I wonder what the results would be if REM dismembered after Document or at least after Automatic for the people

Probably a lot of sadness over the dismemberment of REM.

I mean, I get that one would prefer the earlier stuff, but to cut the band into pieces over it?

The horror, the horror!

Sorry, FM boilermaker.

If they disbanded in the early '90s, they'd still have the same number of great albums. After that, New Adventures is closest to being great, but not quite there.

I think an REM that disbanded before "Stand", "Radio Song", "Shiny Happy People", and "Everybody Hurts" would have had more of a cult band mystique and the ironic/humorous way those songs are dropped in TV/movies would have never happened and they'd likely be cooler w/ more people in hardcore bands.

But there's a lot of great material on those records, and many that came after that we would have never gotten.

I neglected to vote bass player, so I will go with Mills. He was the best part of REM.