Anthony Flack wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:29 pm This may be the first documented instance of someone claiming that Led Zeppelin excelled at reggae.

HOF

I know I got into it about the bass playing in VH before, and I admit the way I expressed it was unfortunate. However, I cannot for the fucking life of me take anything seriously, or even enjoy ironically, when it has that "dump... dump... dump... dump..." bassline. There's like, one Accept song that that bassline doesn't ruin, but it's still absolutely the worst part of that song. And Accept were a tight band, which you cannot say about VH, especially the Dave era, which is the era with riffs. I like riffs, but, "dump... dump... dump... dump..." can't fucking do it.

I dislike a lot of Zeppelin shit too, and honestly, despite being from the heyday of the album era, these were both song bands. The consistent Zeppelin albums from the very end don't have standout songs or crazy riffs, and the earlier albums with the riffs have some shocking stinkers. White reggae very much included.

No vote. Leaning hard toward LZ if my hand was forced. WF: "Jump" and "Panama" nostalgia.

InMySoul77 wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:33 pm Not so hot on the misogynistic lyrics of Roth.

Then you are gonna be pretty sad when you read some of Plant's lyrics.

ChudFusk wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:09 pm

InMySoul77 wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:33 pm Not so hot on the misogynistic lyrics of Roth.

Then you are gonna be pretty sad when you read some of Plant's lyrics.

I knew that was coming.

I can't defend!

I actually haven't heard a Van Halen album in my life, somebody said the best ones are 30minutes long - which one is the most fun, I will check it out before voting Led Zep?

emmanuelle cunt wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:04 am I actually haven't heard a Van Halen album in my life, somebody said the best ones are 30minutes long - which one is the most fun, I will check it out before voting Led Zep?

Fair Warning and the debut LP are both really good.

emmanuelle cunt wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:04 am I actually haven't heard a Van Halen album in my life, somebody said the best ones are 30minutes long - which one is the most fun, I will check it out before voting Led Zep?

VH II

InMySoul77 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:09 am

emmanuelle cunt wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:04 am I actually haven't heard a Van Halen album in my life, somebody said the best ones are 30minutes long - which one is the most fun, I will check it out before voting Led Zep?

Fair Warning and the debut LP are both really good.

This

Women and children first has some spectacular production.

Van Halen - 35:34

Van Halen II - 31:36

Women and Children First - 33:35

Fair Warning - 31:11

Diver Down - 31:04

1984 - 33:22

Love that none of the classic period albums never got over 36 min.

Vibracobra wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:49 pm

InMySoul77 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:09 am

emmanuelle cunt wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:04 am I actually haven't heard a Van Halen album in my life, somebody said the best ones are 30minutes long - which one is the most fun, I will check it out before voting Led Zep?

Fair Warning and the debut LP are both really good.

This

Women and children first has some spectacular production.

IMO all those early VH albums have fantastic production. Loud, raw, in your face sound. Something both bands' albums benefited from.

Thanks! I went with the debut album and it'somehow cheesier than I expected. I know that this band and I guess Aerosmith were the blueprint for the 80's cock metal and I guess it's not necessarily their fault but I can't helping hearing a lot of that crap here, especially in the 'the entire band does sings something' bits. Guitar playing is easily the best thing about, band seems to be too full of them selves at times (something they definitely do share with Led Zep), vocals can be fun or annoying (mostly fun), drums are.. there, and the bass...

biscuitdough wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:40 pm

Anthony Flack wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:29 pm This may be the first documented instance of someone claiming that Led Zeppelin excelled at reggae.

HOF

I know I got into it about the bass playing in VH before, and I admit the way I expressed it was unfortunate. However, I cannot for the fucking life of me take anything seriously, or even enjoy ironically, when it has that "dump... dump... dump... dump..." bassline. There's like, one Accept song that that bassline doesn't ruin, but it's still absolutely the worst part of that song. And Accept were a tight band, which you cannot say about VH, especially the Dave era, which is the era with riffs. I like riffs, but, "dump... dump... dump... dump..." can't fucking do it.

.

THIS! WTF! WHY!?

So Led Zep it is, easily, you could argue they win in most/all of direct comparisons but are so much better as band
(meaning being greater than sum of its parts etc) than Van Halen. Most of the elements I do enjoy in VH I enjoy way more in Queen, maybe that's an idea for a poll.